MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise

Yes on the same page both IDEL and media playback consume less than 10W.

I used 16 inch Macbook Pro myself and connecting to single 1080 monitor with nothing in play consumes 18 - 20W. Anyway I don't see much point arguing here. Wait for the long term fix that will come eventually.

Yes, and the idle power usage of the MBP 16 when not connected to an external screen is less than what you quote.

If you are connected to an external monitor, you are by definition using multiple monitors, by definition, as the screen on the laptop counts as one.

William Kucharski wrote:

MacBook Pro 16s first shipped with macOS Catalina and therefore cannot run any previous version of macOS.

Hi William, yes I was aware of that, for all 16 inch models it's 100% Catalina. However, people also post their experiences with older models, that is why I asked.

Oh, I know about that too. Then what is your considered theory for the 3 swollen batteries with the same design, with the last issue with the 2019 causing replacement of the logic board, trackpad and battery - bad karma? AppleCare has no idea but perhaps you have an alternate idea?

William Kucharski wrote:

You've never owned a laptop this powerful with a GPU this powerful.

You must be kidding! I am using gaming laptops for calculation.. They are at least twice powerful than this.. And they are more silent at idle..

William Kucharski wrote:

This is a complete mischaracterization of the GPUs; the 5500M is also substantially faster with more capability.

A large SUV will use substantially more fuel than a tiny compact car even if both are just used to drive a mile down the street at 25 MPH.

This is totally "reality distorsion".. What Apple learned from Steve Jobs..

A SUV have to carry all of its body.. In electronics, an SUV can be as fast and as fuel efficient as a tiny compact car.. Watts per instructions are in a decreasing trend for last 10 years.. A 9th gen CPU idles 1-2W as 4th gen was idling at 10W.. A 9th gen does a lot more at 45W.. etc..

Stop defending this nonsense.. Other computers are using much more powerful chips and they cand idle below 10W easily.. Nobody complains fans ramping up when they are exporting video.

Thanks :-) If I'd get a 16" MBP I'd want to run it with ext display most of the time. So I'll just wait a little and see how this story develops.

For my children it's another story, they will hook their unit up to an ext display only once in a while.

So the 10th gen chips get hot you say. Maybe that explains why the lower end 2020 MacBook Pro 13" that I am currently testing doesn't spike up the watts when connected to a 30" Apple Cinema Display. See image.

I was actually contemplating on sending this one back and ordering 3 new 2020 higher end models for my children. Specs:

• 10th gen chips
• dual fans
• 2.0 GHz processor
• 4 TB3 ports vs 2

But now I am puzzled. Maybe by getting the 10th gen chips I could be buying a hair dryer....

You could buy it and if it doesn't meet your expectations just return it. I watched a recent torture test between the new 13" MBP and the 16" MBP and the 13" got hotter quicker and was much slower. The fans were also louder on the DB levels.

It easily has met my expectations. Between my 2016 2018, 2019 15" I never really noticed much of a speed increase. Once I got the 16" it was a major, noticeable, improvement.

Good for them.

Stop comparing your MacBook Pro to every PC laptop on the market.

If you think they're so much better, sell your Macs, take the loss and don't look back.

I'll continue to use the most powerful (and productive) laptop I've ever owned.

brycesteiner wrote:

You could buy it and if it doesn't meet your expectations just return it. I watched a recent torture test between the new 13" MBP and the 16" MBP and the 13" got hotter quicker and was much slower. The fans were also louder on the DB levels.

Yeah, I know all about the return process now, as we already sent back 4 2020 MB air units and now this 13” MBP is going back too. it’s still a pity that the 2020 Air was so loud, otherwise it’s a beautifully styled and light machine with a great display and good price.

could you provide a search string for the torture test you mentioned (links get removed a lot here)? I’ve seen a couple from maxtech but I’d like to see more in depth details.

basically it’s still a kids notebook purchase that I’m looking at now. Of course it seems logical that the $2400+ 16” can performs better than the $1799 top range 13” pro, then comes the $1299 13” pro and then the $999 Air. And my kids don’t even need the power of a pro machine at all, but I want to give them a machine that doesn’t start the fans so easily.

when I pay almost double the price for a $1799 MBP compared to the air ($999) the machine will last twice as long and will be more of a joy to use.

I think I will just try the $1799 model and see how it does. If there’s anything worth mentioning I’ll report back here.

By the size of the discussion I think the fan noise is annoying for most of us, having a vacuum 8 hours a day sitting next to you, makes it a little difficult to work, specially now that most of the meetings are online.

And the machine running at 90 degrees for watching a YouTube video an be annoying as well.

I'm behind in the forum in regards to knowing what is exactly going, but my question is; has anyone had their issue resolved, besides making a full refund or using third party apps? Also, is there a software (I understand that Intel is a factor in the issue) fix that can resolve or relief the issue? That's if Apple chooses to address this issue at all... Still in my 14 day return window.

Basically no one knows.

In theory, most anything can be controlled by software, but it's up to AMD and Apple to decide if they want to address the issue and how, or if both are happy with how the system is operating.

Excellent thermal design? I think most of the people will disagree with you, if you call "excellent thermal design" to something that needs to be constantly getting cool by the fans running at MAX speed just by browsing the web or reading an email.

Now I understand most of your replies...........

And you are 100% wrong again, zoom and Microsoft Teams don't use the dGPU, check the screenshots, GPU % 0 and on the energy tab where it shows what apps are using the dGPU you can see that Zoom is not one of them.

Wrong again William!