16-inch MacBook Pro Bluetooth issue

I bought the new 16-inch MacBook Pro when it first came out and was happily using it until a week later my bluetooth stopped discovering devices, in particular my Magic Mouse and iPhone. I tried everything from resetting nvram, smc, resetting the bluetooth module, removing bluetooth.plist, downloaded bluetooth explorer and reset a bunch of settings etc and even went to the extent of completely formatting the computer and installing osx from scratch to no avail. Hardware diagnostics showed no hardware issues as well. The bluetooth device was showing up fine in System Report but it just wasn't discovering anything. I have a work laptop (2017 MacBook Pro) which I use side by side and it was working fine.


Long story short, I was able to replace the device at the Apple store I bought it at since it was within the 14 day return policy window. So I put it down to just being unlucky.


It's been a few weeks since then and I now have the same issue with the replacement laptop. This time though I think I know what triggered it.


I have a CalDigit dock that I use for my work laptop and occasionally have a usb bluetooth device attached to it for some work I do in virtual machines. The issue occurred when I connected my new MacBook to the dock along with the bluetooth dongle. The usb bluetooth dongle worked fine however when I disconnected the thunderbolt dock from the MacBook I noticed the bluetooth icon in the top right hand corner changed to an icon with a zigzag across it, obviously due to bluetooth device being disconnected.


Since disconnecting the external bluetooth device I'm having the same issue as I had previously, my MacBook Bluetooth device won't find any devices and is not recognized by other bluetooth devices like my iPhone/other MacBooks. I've gone through the whole process as before, and have resorted to a clean install of osx to no avail. I've even compared bluetoothd console logs between the working MacBook I have and the now broken one, the only difference is the working MacBook is able to detect devices when they are advertised, whereas the MacBook Pro 16-inch does not.


Digging into this, it seems as though OSX by default switches to any attached USB bluetooth device when it's plugged in and then when disconnected, it reverts back to the onboard device. This works fine on my old MacBook as I've been using the USB dongle for a while now without any issues. I initially thought that there may be a software issue with the internal bluetooth device not switching back properly but I would have thought a clean install would have fixed it so there must be some sort of hardware issue specifically with the new MacBook Pro 16-inch.


I'm pretty frustrated now as I've now gone through two 16-inch MacBook Pro's with bricked bluetooth devices that I'm fairly certain was caused by connecting an external bluetooth dongle via thunderbolt. I'm pretty sure onboard devices shouldn't die just because a third party device was connected/disconnected.


Has anyone come across this yet with the new MacBook Pro 16-inch? I'm going to visit the Apple store tomorrow to see what they can do but I'd prefer if I didn't have to send my laptop away and just find a fix myself if there is one. If not, I thought it'd be good to post my experience here in case anyone else comes across this.

MacBook Pro 16", macOS 10.15

Posted on Dec 14, 2019 2:09 AM

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Posted on Jan 18, 2020 6:30 AM

I had exactly the same problem (down to every detail) and I think I just found a solution.


I'm also using a CalDigit dock and USB bluetooth stick and I'm on my second MBP 16. The first was replaced under AppleCare after the bluetooth module became apparently dead.


The built-in bluetooth came back to life by running system diagnostics (hold down D during boot). After the subsequent restart, without the USB bluetooth adapter attached, I noticed that bluetooth was seeing some devices in the area but still not connecting to anything. I deleted and re-paired my Magic Mouse 2 and Magic Keyboard 2 - now all is working again.

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Jan 30, 2020 11:51 PM in response to christospappas

I have the exact same problem with my Macbook Pro 16 inch. Did SMC reset, NVRAM reset, diagnostics said everything was fine. I ran the bluetooth explorer tool from the xcode additional tools and the Bluetooth module was just gone. Very weird, went to the Apple Store and the guy looked at me and said: I never have seen this problem ever before 😅. They are going to do diagnostics now and I hope they will come with a solution, because it is only 4 weeks old.

Mar 6, 2020 2:50 PM in response to Conrad Chu

Took my mac to the Authorized Service Center. Verdict - short circuit on radio module, logic board replace.

Guys at Apple, you should definetely consider a firmware upgrade for Broadcom WiFi/BT. I don't wont to be afrraid of plugging in devices to my mac, get another brick and wait for another 3-4 weeks of mac's logic board replacement.


P.S. Oops, replied to a message instead of thread, sorry.

Mar 7, 2020 10:34 AM in response to christospappas

Same problem as described by OP. Followed all troubleshooting steps with no success. Just received my MBP back from repairs - they replaced the logic board.


Internal Bluetooth module worked again with my peripherals. I plugged in my Hideez Bluetooth dongle via thunderbolt (16” 2019 MBP) and set the nvram config option to allow Bluetooth switching. Reboot, confirm external module is active in System Report and try to pair.


Pairing did not work and am unable to resurrect the internal Bluetooth module again. Tech flashed T2 firmware to see if that would get it working again but it did not.


They are sending it back for another logic board and doing what they can to escalate this.


Mar 10, 2020 1:18 PM in response to christospappas

MacBook 16". BT (external speaker) works fine and then simply stops working even tho the device shows in BT control.

I've found I need to delete the speaker from Devices and then turn off BT for 3-5 minutes. After that, turn on BT, re-pair the Device and it works fine... until tomorrow when it gets tired and stops working.

VERY frustrating considering how much I have invested in this machine...

Apr 4, 2020 8:49 AM in response to codehoser

Yes no problem

The adapter im using is

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00LSGUBLI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

plus it has a CSR8510 Chipset like @vitorhenrique


Simply a joke and not a reason for me not to plug such a device in...

within 3 fixed here in germany they have to take the device back!

Never heard such problems - not to plug in a specific usb adapter LOL

How could any noobie know this? Simply not possible...



May 19, 2020 5:08 AM in response to jjcinaz

jjcinaz wrote:

You’d think the people at the repair depots would be noticing the frequency of problems.

There is a Repair Frequency Index by year/Mac model/manufacturing location/serial number/replaced part serial number and type. 😉 Repeat Repair Index tracks the number of times a given serial number comes back for warranty repairs.


There is a very unhappy bunch of engineers and managers somewhere on this planet. And this is not the first time!

May 19, 2020 9:31 AM in response to christospappas

I just got the same issue, I am using razor x chroma as for thunderbolt, I have tried all and plus even wasting time with apple care, format the computer, installed bootcamp too for windows 10. Over there the same ble is not working either after the issue. This sucks big time. Now they want to fix the computer, but it seems more likely another bad step from apple engineering. For me when doing the check up (D) it telling me all is good but obviously it is not working.


what did you do at the end?

May 24, 2020 7:49 AM in response to christospappas

I had the same problem with a 2019 27' iMac. I plugged in the CRS USB Bluetooth dongle and after that my bluetooth became a lot unstable. The mouse was literally unusable and when using the AirPods the connection would drop randomly. I did a lot of research but nobody found a solution.


I did all of the following:

-Restore bluetooth module

-Delete .plist preferences

-Reset SMC

-Reset NVRAM

-Reinstalled macOS - To a previous version (Mojave) and to the newest one (Catalina)

-Run hardware diagnosis - Everything was fine


Nothing worked, bluetooth continued to fail and drop. I even talked to Apple Support and neither them could help me. All was leading to a hardware issue but I refused to believe a simple usb dongle messed up the hardware itself.


As someone stated before, the problem in Bluetooth Explorer was showing up as the following error: updateChainPower error: -3903, which means that the bluetooth module is not receiving enough power to maintain a stable connection. That seemed strange so I decided to check on System Report to see if Wi-Fi and Bluetooth loaded well. As I expected, the Wi-Fi tab was showing null on all Software Versions. 



That, somehow, light a bulb in mi brain and I thought about the EFI partition as the EFI is the one that has to preload all the firmware data information to pass it to the operating system. I tried to edit the EFI partition but it seemed impossible without erasing all of the disk, so that is what I did.


The first time I reinstalled the OS I didn't erase all of the disk but only the one that contains the operating system so that explains why a fresh install wasn't working. I ran diskutil to erase all the contents of the hard disk including the EFI partition. Now, with a completely fresh disk drive, I installed macOS and the problem got fixed because the EFI partition was now created from scratch with all of the configuration files needed. Now, bluetooth and Wi-Fi work like a charm without problems.


tl;dr.


Delete manually the EFI partition completely and reinstall macOS from scratch, that restores configuration files on the boot loader that make bluetooth working again.

Jun 2, 2020 4:15 PM in response to MrMackie

@mitt, if you connect an external Bluetooth dongle into a mbp 16 the logic board gets kaput. And apple does not take responsibility about the issue. Steve is gone many years ago and the best of this company left with him. Same people have mailing 3 months to get it fix, but this dude by the name of Loner seems to think that is alright, either he is a troll or his real name is Igor from Moscow. Pick and choose.

Jun 4, 2020 6:54 AM in response to jeremías49

jeremías49 wrote:

Issue persists on Bootcamp and after reinstalling macOS. It's either a hardware or firmware issue.

Does WiFi work properly on the Mac which no longer has BT? The BT/WiFi is an integrated module.

Hopefully a it can be fixed via software update, otherwise I foresee quite a large number of product recalls.

No worries. 😉. Apple has a lot of experience in managing large recalls since 2008.

Jun 7, 2020 9:52 AM in response to AntiHawk

@AntiHawk, it works!!!!! brother thanks so much. Amazing. I did use a different bluetooth 2.0 as well the cheap one you fet from amazon or ebay, https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00IMQ58NI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I did all your steps but I do add something to your amazing work, dude amazing you are.

number 4 I have manage do fix the issue without doing it. in case you got a egpu you guys have to remove it. For some reason I dont get, it does not work if you got it on (maybe power source?). Also in my case I manage to reproduce the failure only 3 times, in all of them I got to nvram and smc. I am just talking in my cases. Like you I used an android device.


Bluetooth aslo works now in bootcamp


Jun 12, 2020 8:19 AM in response to jamiefromkirkcaldy

jamiefromkirkcaldy wrote:

Yeah, I have tried the steps on both MacBooks a few times now. When the Bluetooth was working on my 13", the BT 2.0 would show devices in the Bluetooth menu when plugged in. However now its been disabled, it no longer shows any devices.
When I plug the BT2.0 dongle into a windows PC, it flashes when searching. It doesn't do this in macOS, the red light just stays solid.

Jamie

What are you using to connect the USB A to USB C, I also have this issue and ordered a few BT2.0 devices. But the first 2 have the same issue. So I think it might be the USB C dongle I'm using.

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