16-inch MacBook Pro Bluetooth issue

I bought the new 16-inch MacBook Pro when it first came out and was happily using it until a week later my bluetooth stopped discovering devices, in particular my Magic Mouse and iPhone. I tried everything from resetting nvram, smc, resetting the bluetooth module, removing bluetooth.plist, downloaded bluetooth explorer and reset a bunch of settings etc and even went to the extent of completely formatting the computer and installing osx from scratch to no avail. Hardware diagnostics showed no hardware issues as well. The bluetooth device was showing up fine in System Report but it just wasn't discovering anything. I have a work laptop (2017 MacBook Pro) which I use side by side and it was working fine.


Long story short, I was able to replace the device at the Apple store I bought it at since it was within the 14 day return policy window. So I put it down to just being unlucky.


It's been a few weeks since then and I now have the same issue with the replacement laptop. This time though I think I know what triggered it.


I have a CalDigit dock that I use for my work laptop and occasionally have a usb bluetooth device attached to it for some work I do in virtual machines. The issue occurred when I connected my new MacBook to the dock along with the bluetooth dongle. The usb bluetooth dongle worked fine however when I disconnected the thunderbolt dock from the MacBook I noticed the bluetooth icon in the top right hand corner changed to an icon with a zigzag across it, obviously due to bluetooth device being disconnected.


Since disconnecting the external bluetooth device I'm having the same issue as I had previously, my MacBook Bluetooth device won't find any devices and is not recognized by other bluetooth devices like my iPhone/other MacBooks. I've gone through the whole process as before, and have resorted to a clean install of osx to no avail. I've even compared bluetoothd console logs between the working MacBook I have and the now broken one, the only difference is the working MacBook is able to detect devices when they are advertised, whereas the MacBook Pro 16-inch does not.


Digging into this, it seems as though OSX by default switches to any attached USB bluetooth device when it's plugged in and then when disconnected, it reverts back to the onboard device. This works fine on my old MacBook as I've been using the USB dongle for a while now without any issues. I initially thought that there may be a software issue with the internal bluetooth device not switching back properly but I would have thought a clean install would have fixed it so there must be some sort of hardware issue specifically with the new MacBook Pro 16-inch.


I'm pretty frustrated now as I've now gone through two 16-inch MacBook Pro's with bricked bluetooth devices that I'm fairly certain was caused by connecting an external bluetooth dongle via thunderbolt. I'm pretty sure onboard devices shouldn't die just because a third party device was connected/disconnected.


Has anyone come across this yet with the new MacBook Pro 16-inch? I'm going to visit the Apple store tomorrow to see what they can do but I'd prefer if I didn't have to send my laptop away and just find a fix myself if there is one. If not, I thought it'd be good to post my experience here in case anyone else comes across this.

MacBook Pro 16", macOS 10.15

Posted on Dec 14, 2019 2:09 AM

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Posted on Jan 18, 2020 6:30 AM

I had exactly the same problem (down to every detail) and I think I just found a solution.


I'm also using a CalDigit dock and USB bluetooth stick and I'm on my second MBP 16. The first was replaced under AppleCare after the bluetooth module became apparently dead.


The built-in bluetooth came back to life by running system diagnostics (hold down D during boot). After the subsequent restart, without the USB bluetooth adapter attached, I noticed that bluetooth was seeing some devices in the area but still not connecting to anything. I deleted and re-paired my Magic Mouse 2 and Magic Keyboard 2 - now all is working again.

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Jun 16, 2020 6:34 PM in response to ryryryfry

Hi,


I noticed right away when I took my new MacBook Pro out of the box as new that some older bluetooth devices (2 years older than my Mac) do not work perfectly with this machine. I have intermittent cutouts of bluetooth audio time to time and total failures of bluetooth link when switching between high quality audio on phone audio on the same device.


I generally think that everything that runs via bluetooth is kinda problematic and can't be trusted to work 100% of time.


Have you tried these:


  • Turn your bluetooth devices completely off one at the time and check if one of them is causing inteference that stops other devices from working


  • It's not bad idea to try turning off WLAN APs etc and try out if that fixes the problem


  • Move to other area with the devices to rule out local inteference from other equipment


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In past I have solved various wireless transmission problems caused by:


  • Microwave oven
  • Air Conditioners
  • TV
  • Printers
  • Wireless mouses
  • "Tuned" WLAN APs
  • Radio amateur equipment


They are not that uncommon that one might think.


I have also seen multiple cases where someone have built bluetooth jamming devices that are designed to make bluetooth unusable at given area and one of them who I have talked with told that they stumbled upon it by accident while fiddleing with device firmware.


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Aug 22, 2020 12:17 PM in response to Gordon Mohr

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00345SLGS/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Try this one, I got my Bluetooth back to normal using this one.

This isn't using a Broadcom chip, so I encountered some issue when trying to follow AntiHawk's workaround, the procedure he provided above won't work since you won't able to connect to anything with this 2.0 dongle, even if my Macbook does recognize it as a BT adapter.

But strangely, after resetting SMC and NVRAM, some plugging in and out of this dongle, my internal Bluetooth just came back following a restart.


Oct 7, 2020 8:03 PM in response to Zumss

It’s infuriating that Apple isn’t putting out a fix for this problem. I was in dialogue with multiple senior advisors for over a month who all recommend logic board replacement. I too was able to fix the issue with a BT 2.0 dongle and told the senior advisors what the fix is, they brushed it off. Why won’t they listen to their users in this issue? It would save them lots of money in replacement parts, countless hours of support time and prevent customer frustration.

Oct 16, 2020 5:05 AM in response to Loner T

Its quite a mess through apple service. Talked about this bluetooth problem with third-Apple service certified center : they choose to replace motherboard to be paid by Apple than push that solution to Apple Engineering support.

Maybe if someone call Apple service center in the USA, the problem will disappear with firmware update.



Thanks all for found this crazy solutions, yes it definitely works.


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Oct 23, 2020 12:14 AM in response to poxin

Hi Poxin, I would suggest contacting Apple Support: find your local phone number here: https://getsupport.apple.com or you can use the chat there. I think it's just users helping each other on this forum so Apple probably isn't aware of the problem when we only talk about it here. Also I would suggest to explain clearly how the problem appeared after having the external bluetooth receiver attached. Some of the advisors I talked to didn't really understand that part at first and when they did I got the comment they haven't heard of this problem before.


So I think it would help if people affected by this problem communicate to Apple through the official support channels that you can find on the Apple support website.

Oct 30, 2020 9:43 AM in response to christospappas

I can also confirm the AntiHawk solution. For those looking for a compatible 2.1 Bluetooth Dongle for the fix, I can confirm that this one from Argos worked a treat, £10.....


https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8365448?clickSR=slp:term:micro%2010m%20usb%20bluetooth:10:20:2


Apple, how can you be allowing motherboard replacements for this? Whilst unorthodox, there is a solution. Why have you not provided a patch?

I also was caught out when accidentally connected a hub with bluetooth dongle already connected. Luckily, I was able to find this thread, otherwise, it would have been an expensive, seemingly pointless, and time consuming repair. It's not very environmentally responsible.

Nov 11, 2020 10:18 AM in response to Loumiakas

Loumiakas wrote:

Oh apologies, I did not notice those two extra pairs of 0s! It follows the same pattern as on my system.

I compared the your values to mine, they differ a little bit:
bluetoothActiveControllerInfo %96%00%ac%05%00%00%00%00%00%00%f8%ff%c2;%18%df
bluetoothInternalControllerInfo %96%00%ac%05%00%00%00%00%f8%ff%c2;%18%df

If you feel particularly adventurous, you could try mine. But be warned, I have no idea what these values mean, so do it at your own risk!



Actually, being a curious person I have managed to break the inbuilt module again. Last post will not do anything so don't bother... Also, values tend to stay the same, when you break your module, so it is not applicable.


Now, I noticed that performing is apparently not enough:

sudo nvram -c 


Try the following:


Step #1:

sudo nvram boot-args="-p -r" (this will issue an error, so I don't know if it does anything)
sudo nvram -c
sudo reboot


Step #2:

After this, your module might or might not start up. Open terminal again and issue this command and perform a scan through bluetooth settings window:

bluetoothd 



Step #3:

If that does not work, try plugging any BT2.0 dongle. It does not have to be Broadcom (mine is Cambridge Silicon Radio). Perform a scan, then unplug it and see if your bluetooth starts up.


If not, stop bluetoothd and close bluetooth settings window and keep performing these steps #2 and #3 again. It should eventually start working.


This does not work every time, but eventually it should start working! (did this 4 times now, within 15 minute timeframe). I will try to refine it down and let you know how it goes...

Jan 2, 2021 5:18 PM in response to overtheborder

I have the same problem as everyone else. The adapter that bricked my internal bluetooth is Hideez that uses CSR 4.0


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0792NSF7M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


I'd rather fix this myself rather than backup, get a new logic board, restore. I too would like referral to a 2.0 adapter that fixes this problem reliably and can be purchased in the USA. Thanks.

Jan 28, 2021 10:20 AM in response to overtheborder

I have sometimes been able to fix similar problems with SMC and/or NVRAM/PRAM reset.


Once my MacBook Pro visited official Apple repair shop due premature battery failure covered by warranty and they forgot/incorrectly connected WLAN/Bluetooth antenna when they put it back together and WLAN did not work properly.

Those connectors are extremely small and it is easy to connect them partially or damage the connector thus causing poor connectivity.


Had to visit the shop again and they were apologizing for the inconvenience which was all fine by me as those things happen time to time.


I would check if the RSSI value with connected device is good enough (hold down option-key when clicking bluetooth icon).

Best RSSI value would be 0 dBm and worst -100 dBm (not sure what is the high limit and 0 is impossible to reach in real world). My headphones are usually in -13 to - 40 dBm range when I am in close to moderate proximity to my Mac.


Also try other devices if possible to make sure.


I had to disable 2.4 Ghz WLAN from my WLAN station as MacBook Pro 16" did not work reliably with it. This also impacted bluetooth connection quality positively.

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