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16-inch MacBook Pro Bluetooth issue

I bought the new 16-inch MacBook Pro when it first came out and was happily using it until a week later my bluetooth stopped discovering devices, in particular my Magic Mouse and iPhone. I tried everything from resetting nvram, smc, resetting the bluetooth module, removing bluetooth.plist, downloaded bluetooth explorer and reset a bunch of settings etc and even went to the extent of completely formatting the computer and installing osx from scratch to no avail. Hardware diagnostics showed no hardware issues as well. The bluetooth device was showing up fine in System Report but it just wasn't discovering anything. I have a work laptop (2017 MacBook Pro) which I use side by side and it was working fine.


Long story short, I was able to replace the device at the Apple store I bought it at since it was within the 14 day return policy window. So I put it down to just being unlucky.


It's been a few weeks since then and I now have the same issue with the replacement laptop. This time though I think I know what triggered it.


I have a CalDigit dock that I use for my work laptop and occasionally have a usb bluetooth device attached to it for some work I do in virtual machines. The issue occurred when I connected my new MacBook to the dock along with the bluetooth dongle. The usb bluetooth dongle worked fine however when I disconnected the thunderbolt dock from the MacBook I noticed the bluetooth icon in the top right hand corner changed to an icon with a zigzag across it, obviously due to bluetooth device being disconnected.


Since disconnecting the external bluetooth device I'm having the same issue as I had previously, my MacBook Bluetooth device won't find any devices and is not recognized by other bluetooth devices like my iPhone/other MacBooks. I've gone through the whole process as before, and have resorted to a clean install of osx to no avail. I've even compared bluetoothd console logs between the working MacBook I have and the now broken one, the only difference is the working MacBook is able to detect devices when they are advertised, whereas the MacBook Pro 16-inch does not.


Digging into this, it seems as though OSX by default switches to any attached USB bluetooth device when it's plugged in and then when disconnected, it reverts back to the onboard device. This works fine on my old MacBook as I've been using the USB dongle for a while now without any issues. I initially thought that there may be a software issue with the internal bluetooth device not switching back properly but I would have thought a clean install would have fixed it so there must be some sort of hardware issue specifically with the new MacBook Pro 16-inch.


I'm pretty frustrated now as I've now gone through two 16-inch MacBook Pro's with bricked bluetooth devices that I'm fairly certain was caused by connecting an external bluetooth dongle via thunderbolt. I'm pretty sure onboard devices shouldn't die just because a third party device was connected/disconnected.


Has anyone come across this yet with the new MacBook Pro 16-inch? I'm going to visit the Apple store tomorrow to see what they can do but I'd prefer if I didn't have to send my laptop away and just find a fix myself if there is one. If not, I thought it'd be good to post my experience here in case anyone else comes across this.

MacBook Pro 16", macOS 10.15

Posted on Dec 14, 2019 2:09 AM

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Posted on Jul 6, 2020 5:25 AM

Here is a summary of the whole thread:


TL;DR:


  • It's apparently possible to unfix the problem with a BT 2.0 dongle
  • For those that are scared to break it again (after logic board replacement OR BT 2.0 fix), they can run a NVRAM command to never switch BT controllers again (need to re-run after NVRAM reset):


sudo nvram bluetoothHostControllerSwitchBehavior="never"


Might be best to put that in a startup script and only change if needed.


  • It seems to have to do with Power Management and seemingly a EFI firmware bug introduced in Catalina as it's not possible to break Mojave in the same way.


So in summary it's several factors that came together here to create this bug:


  • a) A likely firmware bug in the EFI in Catalina.
  • b) A pretty unsafe default for switching Bluetooth controllers - which most users likely don't want anyway.
  • c) Maybe: A CSR USB controller using the exact same chip as the internal one. (if I am able to unbreak my device, I will try to re-break with a Broadcom 4.0 device, too)


Long version:


I have been bitten by the Bluetooth bug, too that breaks the internal Bluetooth module on Mac Book Pro 16inch if you accidentally plug in an USB CSR 4.0 Bluetooth dongle.


  • It seems to not happen on Mojave - so it's also related to a driver bug in Catalina regarding power management.
  • It happens in the first place because the nvram default behavior is to switch over to external Bluetooth by default.


The symptom is:


  • The Bluetooth chip gets too little power and hence fails to connect to devices and if it does connection is spotty. While on MacBook Pro 16inch it completely fails, other Macs can have bad Bluetooth behavior that is "spotty".


  • The solution of AppleRepair so far has been to completely replace the logic board, which fixes it till the next Dongle is plugged in and obviously is quite costly for a pure software bug.


Several observations:


  • The current theory is that the internal firmware mixes up the external CSR chip for it's own and saves the power requirement of the external chip (which is less as its powered by BT) and then uses this for the internal chip.


  • a) It is highly debatable to make the switch over to external dongle the default for all users if the functionality is usually only wanted by a handful of developers that develop Bluetooth LE applications. In fact it also breaks it for iOS developers and everyone that wants to use a Dongle to use with a VM:



  • Fortunately that is easily remedied with a nvram command to change the behavior. It would be great if Apple changed this in the next minor Catalina release by default to not switch over to external Bluetooth automatically, but make it an option to select the Controller (like you can do with Bluetooth Explorer). The setting could be stored and automatically be applied after every reboot to what the user configured. That would prevent the bug in probably most user cases until a proper fix can be found.


  • b) It is unclear if a pure software fix could fix this as per the reports the issue remains once it has happened even if you boot into Windows / Bootcamp. However it is seemingly possible (per the above accepted answer) to unfix that issue with an older CSR Bluetooth 2.0 dongle. This probably helps, because it has a different power requirement as it predates Bluetooth LE and hence the MacBook FW gives the internal Bluetooth chip more power again.


  • c) Someone tried to port the Bluetooth drivers from Catalina to Mojave and it did not work.This points to the fact that it likely is an EFI / soft FW update that broke this in Catalina and not a pure software bug.


Overall it seems Apple would have several ways to fix / work around this:


  • Fix the EFI to fix the PM bug. (that gives hope that it can be fixed 100% and also restored affected devices without logic board replacement)
  • If that fix takes a while to do, at least change the default and put out a changelog for those few that need to use an external Bluetooth dongle to replace the internal one.
  • Create a program that does whatever the diagnostics on the Apple Wifi in the repair shop does to reset the firmware to sane values.
  • Create a device to emulate the USB behavior of a 2.0 Bluetooth device to fix broken devices [unlikely as that is].


In theory VirtualHere + ZeroTier could be used to share a BT 2.0 dongle from one machine on the internet to another one and unbreak something remotely. (not sure if that would work in practice though as emulation is not perfect. Though I know that Bluetooth over Internet works well as that is ironically how I broke my BT in the first place as I needed a dongle for bluetooth-over-internet)

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Feb 28, 2020 4:22 AM in response to christospappas

I bought a 16" MacBook pro yesterday (27th Feb 2020) and noticed pretty much straight away that my Bluetooth headphones wouldn't connect....and in fact no devices will connect, reveal or 'discover' at all!

I've followed the helpful tips (with thanks) in this discussion but nothing works - I'll visit the genius bar ASAP and update the outcome....


Mar 5, 2020 11:13 AM in response to christospappas

I have the exact same problem.


I also connected my laptop to a CalDigit TS3 Plus Thunderbolt 3 dock.


However, I don't have a USB Bluetooth adapter persay.

Instead, I have a Sennheiser SDW 5066 headset that connects to CalDigit dock via a USB. The headset's base unit does have a USB Bluetooth adapter to make the headset available over Bluetooth as well. This is to allow my iPhone to use the headset as well over Bluetooth while my laptop uses the headset via USB exclusively.


Here's the Adapter : https://d.pr/i/kzZdo5


I took my laptop into the Apple Store Genius Bar. They ran the store-only diagnostic and said everything passed. Prior to this, I already did the SMC, NVRAM and OS Re-install.


They encouraged me to do a full wipe/reinstall and if it still doesn't work to send my laptop in for service.


It sounds like based on this thread, that it's the logic board, and it's bluetooth host has switched over to be external and can't switch back.


Terrible!!


Mar 6, 2020 2:50 PM in response to Conrad Chu

Took my mac to the Authorized Service Center. Verdict - short circuit on radio module, logic board replace.

Guys at Apple, you should definetely consider a firmware upgrade for Broadcom WiFi/BT. I don't wont to be afrraid of plugging in devices to my mac, get another brick and wait for another 3-4 weeks of mac's logic board replacement.


P.S. Oops, replied to a message instead of thread, sorry.

Mar 7, 2020 10:34 AM in response to christospappas

Same problem as described by OP. Followed all troubleshooting steps with no success. Just received my MBP back from repairs - they replaced the logic board.


Internal Bluetooth module worked again with my peripherals. I plugged in my Hideez Bluetooth dongle via thunderbolt (16” 2019 MBP) and set the nvram config option to allow Bluetooth switching. Reboot, confirm external module is active in System Report and try to pair.


Pairing did not work and am unable to resurrect the internal Bluetooth module again. Tech flashed T2 firmware to see if that would get it working again but it did not.


They are sending it back for another logic board and doing what they can to escalate this.


Mar 10, 2020 1:18 PM in response to christospappas

MacBook 16". BT (external speaker) works fine and then simply stops working even tho the device shows in BT control.

I've found I need to delete the speaker from Devices and then turn off BT for 3-5 minutes. After that, turn on BT, re-pair the Device and it works fine... until tomorrow when it gets tired and stops working.

VERY frustrating considering how much I have invested in this machine...

Mar 18, 2020 9:43 AM in response to christospappas

It would appear that connecting a bluetooth dongle criples bluetooth on the motherboard, siri seems involved also, still investigting. A connecting diffrent brands of hardware dongles after issue began, some work some do not. There does not seem to be a way to power-- the macbook pro 2019 --down, without taking the back plate off and manually disconnecting the battery. Interesting that this laptop is never really off?


My 17inch macbook pro still works great... go figure.

Apr 3, 2020 7:29 AM in response to hairdresser06

I fully understand this @ haidresser06

Thats why i dont bring my MacBook to the store ( closed anyways)

For me it isnt such a big problem right now because I can use external BT...

I used to reset the BT by the posting from 1st page but doenst change anything (i mean it does change the usage of the BT adapter but doesnt fix anything)


Biggest crap is - apple doenst even offer a pick up or a sending in the device via post!

The next apple store is roughly 100km from my home ...kinda funny though.

This is my first and maybe last mac ....customer support is very bad.

Apr 3, 2020 8:32 AM in response to hairdresser06

I think it's mostly an issue with international support.


I did bring my laptop into the store several weeks ago before things shutdown and they ran the first level of diagnostics and couldn't see anything. I couldn't let them send in my laptop at the moment because I had some a presentation at work I needed to do. The tech there said he put in notes so I could at any time request a box to send the laptop in for testing/repairs.


After a few weeks and getting a loaner laptop from my company, I called in to Apple and asked them to send me a box to mail the laptop back in. I sent it in, and it took 6 days for them to repair it (they noted there is a parts delay) and the laptop is now on its way back to me.


I think there might be supply issues on parts.


I recommend referencing this post to support as it's very accurate to what I had.

16-inch MacBook Pro Bluetooth issue

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