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Oh My God !!!! I ordered an iPhone Pro Max 11 from Apple online and the box was delivered to my house empty !!! Three days later and out $1200 I was told that I will not get a phone or refund until they locate the phone and it is returned to them !!!!! This is THEFT !!!

iPhone 11 Pro Max

Posted on Dec 14, 2019 9:33 AM

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Posted on Dec 14, 2019 11:09 AM

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Check the email confirmation from Apple for the iPhone's purchase. It's essentially a 100% certainty it states a signature is required upon delivery. Meaning, they can't just drop the box and go. They have to take it back to the truck and try again the next day.


That is the main point.


At this time of year in particular, drivers are overworked, and the yearly temps don't always follow the rules. We replaced my wife's old iPhone 5 with an iPhone Xr. The email stated that yes, a signature was required. And yet, when the driver dropped off the box, all they did was ring the doorbell and leave as quickly as possible. I work out of the home, and from the time the doorbell rang and I got to the front door (all of 15-20 seconds), the driver was already back in their vehicle and pulling away.


The point being, no signature was ever given by you for reception of the item.


  1. Check the email, and/or call Apple to confirm a signature was required. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't.
  2. Call UPS, FedEx, or whoever was responsible for the delivery who signed for it?
  3. If no one signed, then they are responsible for reimbursing you for the stolen item.
  4. If it was signed, then it was fraud. You should be able to prove it wasn't you by the time stamp of when it was delivered. As in, you weren't even there because you were at work. And again, the delivery service is responsible for reimbursing your loss.

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Dec 14, 2019 11:09 AM in response to Kurt Lang

More information you may find more useful.


Check the email confirmation from Apple for the iPhone's purchase. It's essentially a 100% certainty it states a signature is required upon delivery. Meaning, they can't just drop the box and go. They have to take it back to the truck and try again the next day.


That is the main point.


At this time of year in particular, drivers are overworked, and the yearly temps don't always follow the rules. We replaced my wife's old iPhone 5 with an iPhone Xr. The email stated that yes, a signature was required. And yet, when the driver dropped off the box, all they did was ring the doorbell and leave as quickly as possible. I work out of the home, and from the time the doorbell rang and I got to the front door (all of 15-20 seconds), the driver was already back in their vehicle and pulling away.


The point being, no signature was ever given by you for reception of the item.


  1. Check the email, and/or call Apple to confirm a signature was required. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't.
  2. Call UPS, FedEx, or whoever was responsible for the delivery who signed for it?
  3. If no one signed, then they are responsible for reimbursing you for the stolen item.
  4. If it was signed, then it was fraud. You should be able to prove it wasn't you by the time stamp of when it was delivered. As in, you weren't even there because you were at work. And again, the delivery service is responsible for reimbursing your loss.

Dec 14, 2019 10:13 AM in response to gballasohio

When did I ever say it was your fault?


Twice now, I have stated this. The phone was removed by someone along the delivery chain.


That the box was opened and re-taped proves that notion. What can you do about it? Contact the company that dropped off the package and tell them what happened. If a thief simply took the phone after delivery, they wouldn't bother to re-tape the box. They wouldn't even bother to open it at your home. Just pick it up and run. That it was re-sealed means a delivery employee is the thief.

Dec 14, 2019 1:17 PM in response to gballasohio

You do realize that if the same thing happens with the shipment of any other product, from any other retailer, the same thing is going to happen. You are going to have to wait until the shipping company (in this case UPS) completes their investigation into the theft and reports that to the shipper (in this case Apple). You will be made whole as soon as that happens. Be patient, you will get your $!200 worth.

Dec 14, 2019 10:02 AM in response to gballasohio

Yes, you did get something. A box. Getting nothing would mean the item was never even sent.


Again, someone along the delivery chain took the phone out of the box. It's possible an employee at Apple did it.


Did the box have any indication of having already been opened? Such as, the seal was cut through and taped over with a new piece of tape. Or, the original tape had been peeled off and new tape put on. There's always an indication that has happened since it's impossible not to tear some of the cardboard paper off with the original tape.


If either of those were true, you shouldn't have refused acceptance of the package from the driver. This, of course, if you were there when it was delivered, and not just coming home to a box sitting on your doorstep.

Dec 14, 2019 1:33 PM in response to ChrisJ4203

As a business owner, I would make the sale right. I would not hold the customer responsible for something that was not his problem. Issue the replacement or refund and deal with the problem on your end. Withholding the customers money or product until the "investigation" (between Apple and UPS) is finished (possibly WEEKS) , is an unnecessary burden on the purchaser. Plus, as you have said, time is ticking. What if they say I am at fault ?? then I'm out everything.....If they conclude( and it is the consensus from everyone I talked to) that I wasn't at fault. Don't punish me......Deal with it on your end..... I'm sure a company as big as Apple can understand this.

Dec 14, 2019 1:33 PM in response to gballasohio

You'd be out of business pretty quickly doing that. If, as per your example, UPS declares they can't find fault on their end and doesn't reimburse your business, and you've already given the customer a replacement phone or cash, then you are out $1,200.


How many times do you think you could do that before you'd have to shutter the doors? Thieves would pack your store like sardines, claiming to have had their phone stolen and asking you to replace it at your loss.

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