Transferring really old Word/TextEdit files to Catalina

I'm getting ready to upgrade from Sierra to Catalina and Microsoft 2011 to 365. I have some personal essays from the early 1990s that I want to save. They cannot be opened in Word 2011, which I found out *after* manually adding .doc to the end of each file name. However, I am able to open them in TextEdit, although there are now computer garbage symbols in each document with a few phrases inexplicably out of order.


My question is: if I save these slightly, but not terminally, corrupted files in TextEdit in Sierra, will I be able to open them in TextEdit in Catalina?


Thanks!

Posted on Apr 10, 2020 8:28 PM

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Posted on Apr 11, 2020 5:47 AM

I know for a fact that the free, 64-bit LibreOffice (v6.4.2) opens Word 6 documents from the mid-1990's and claims it can open Word 4, and Microsoft Works documents too. Apple tends to draw a line in the sand regarding age of Word documents, so even Preview, and likely TextEdit will follow Pages in informing you that the document is too old to open.


Once those older documents are opened in LibreOffice, and then resaved as contemporary .docx documents, then the open embargo with Apple applications, or Office 365, will end.

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Apr 11, 2020 5:47 AM in response to Babette Gorman

I know for a fact that the free, 64-bit LibreOffice (v6.4.2) opens Word 6 documents from the mid-1990's and claims it can open Word 4, and Microsoft Works documents too. Apple tends to draw a line in the sand regarding age of Word documents, so even Preview, and likely TextEdit will follow Pages in informing you that the document is too old to open.


Once those older documents are opened in LibreOffice, and then resaved as contemporary .docx documents, then the open embargo with Apple applications, or Office 365, will end.

Apr 10, 2020 9:14 PM in response to Babette Gorman

Word documents are not text files. Changing the extension won’t likely help.

(Not unless Microsoft suggests that rename, that is. They sometimes do weird things in Redmond.)

LibreOffice might read the contents, and that’s been able to open an assortment of older Office documents

If you only want the text, there’s a tool around for the command line called catdoc.

catdoc can extract text from various Office documents.

I’ve used catdoc many years ago and it worked, but have not used it again in quite some time.

Apr 11, 2020 3:58 PM in response to VikingOSX

This will be my fourth time trying to reply and thank you all.


LibreOffice works like a charm, even on the few documents whose names I didn't get around to changing. Word abhors slashes and suffix-less file names, e.g. diary 3/5/95, but LibreOffice embraces diversity and I'm so grateful to you all for steering me to it.


Now I can upgrade from Sierra to Catalina and perhaps avoid paying a subscription fee to those Redmond folks. I already avoided subscription fees to Adobe by buying Affinity design, photo, and publishing software. I will have to upgrade Filemaker Pro and Banktivity but nothing else.


Thanks again!

Apr 11, 2020 5:48 AM in response to Babette Gorman

The Office 365 version of Word will open them just fine. You may need to add the .doc extension for the system to recognize it is a Word document, though.

TextEdit isn't a perfect renderer of Word documents. It does the best it can.


If you cannot open them in 2011, then they aren't Word documents or they are corrupted. Do you remember what you used to create them?

Apr 11, 2020 8:06 AM in response to Babette Gorman

Babette Gorman wrote:

Actually they were Word docs, but I don't remember which version, as the creation dates range from 1991-1998. I can open the ones created from the end of 1998 on. I'm going to try all of your solutions now and see if any of them works.


catdoc or LibreOffice, then. catdoc is a bit of a hassle if you’re not familiar with the command line, but has worked well with extracting just the text from older Word documents. It’s a path from Word to a traditional ASCII plain-text text editor. And LibreOfficeis intended tobe very compatible with Office documents.

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