Time Machine - how to limit the space it uses in 10.15 on an external server USB disk

The setup: Several MBP running 10.13 presently, but soon to be upgraded to 10.15. A Mac Mini running10.15 with a 4TB USB3 disk attached to it. This disks stores several files with data and should also hold the TM backup of the MBP’ and the MM.


I want to limit the TM space on the 4TB disk for each MBP to 600MB and for the MM to 250GB.


I know I could set up partitions, however would rather not do it that way, but can if needed. I found some information for older OS on the Internet but not for 10.15. Can anybody point the way for me as to how to do this?


Thanks.


Posted on Apr 18, 2020 7:50 AM

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Apr 18, 2020 8:09 AM in response to ChangeAgent

I know I could set up partitions, however would rather not do it that way, but can if needed.

That would be the way to do it. There is nothing in Time Machine to limit the size of the backup.

I don't thing HFS+ has any disk quota capability.


In the Advanced options under File Sharing for that drive, you can set it up as a Time Machine destination, and set a quota, but I don't think that can be done "per user" or "per source". I also don't know if the quota is designed to be per backup or total for all backups.

Apr 19, 2020 5:45 AM in response to ChangeAgent

ChangeAgent wrote:

OK. I like to prevent TM filling the whole disk as I want to have space for other stuff.


Time Machine really wants its own dedicated drive. It is not advised to partition the external drive for both TM and as additional storage space. External drives are relatively inexpensive.


Time Machine is great when it works, however it is a bit finicky as it is. You will be setting yourself up for heart break down the line.


3-2-1 Backup Strategy: three copies of your data, two different methods, and one offsite.


Boot clone https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-10081

How to use Time Machine to back up or restore your Mac: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201250

Use DiskUtility Restore feature https://support.apple.com/guide/disk-utility/restore-a-disk-dskutl14062/mac

note: >System Preferences>Security & Privacy >Privacy>Full Disk Access

unlock the padlock, press the + button and add Disk Utility





Apr 19, 2020 5:58 AM in response to ChangeAgent

I was thinking about the desire to partition off the drive to control the size of the backup.

Based on many question here on how to move their backup to a new, larger drive, what do you plan on doing when you run out of space on the dedicated partition? You won't be able to expand the partition as you'll have one of the backup partitions directly after the first one. Unless you plan to put buffer partitions after the backup partitions, you'll have nowhere to expand into.


Get a drive that is sized appropriately for the two backups and leave it be.

Apr 18, 2020 5:40 PM in response to ChangeAgent

Are you talking about quotas on a drive or quotas for Time Machine.

If someone thinks there is a way to do it in Time Machine, then there may be.

I have never had any desire to dig into the inner workings of Time Machine. I just turn it on and it works.


In the number of times I've looked into Time Machine problems, here, I don't remember anyone ever discussing disk quotas. However, I think limiting the space for a backup isn't useful, so I would likely have ignored anything like that.

Apr 19, 2020 9:40 AM in response to Barney-15E

Barney-15E wrote:

dialabrain is 100% correct.
https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/types-of-disks-you-can-use-with-time-machine-mh15139/mac

For Time Machine to work, the file system it is writing to must support hard links to folders.
APFS does not support that feature. Most file systems do not. Apple added it to HFS+ for Time Machine.

aha, clear thanks.

Apr 19, 2020 10:31 AM in response to ChangeAgent

I am fine with that as I do not need backups that go back
for years. If I have2+ months all is well. I have other systems in place that
go back further if needed. TM is just for the occasional by accident deleted
file etc. 

Then I would just buy a right-sized drive to backup the desired Macs for the time you need and leave it alone.

The bottom line is if you are trying to work around the design of Time Machine, it isn't the backup solution you should be using.

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