Top Gun 4k not in Dolby Atmos sound?

Give it a few days. It isn’t even in 4K Dolby Vision as advertised, despite what the iTunes Store says. It has been converted to the new transfer but plays in HD SDR.

Apple have been known to add Atmos later on. so hopefully they’ll do that when they fix the 4K issue.

It’s not Apple that decides if/when to add Atmos for Top Gun and War of the Worlds. It’s Paramount that makes that call. It’s honestly stupid that Paramount has excluded the Atmos tracks on Apple, but I’m sure there must be “exclusivity” agreements between the studios and digital providers otherwise Apple would absolutely want it as I’m sure they have lost out on a lot of sales because of the lack of Atmos.

@Rob, I’ve just tested this in both apps on Apple TV.

The Apple TV app does not play Atmos. The iTunes Movies app does. So at the moment, what it says in the app is what you’ll get with regards to audio, but both are still HD only. It seems the streams are coming from two different servers. Why they can’t match them up, I don’t know.

You mean the description your TV gives you? Well that would be expected as the ATV 4K always sends out 4K.

I've just noticed today that the Apple TV app now shows Top Gun as being 4K Dolby Vision. The bad news is that it now seems to have changed to the old transfer, in line with the Apple TV iTunes Movies app. Both apps trigger Dolby Vision, but both are HD-only (that part isn't a surprise particularly, as a lot of iTunes 4K films are playing in HD at the moment).

I think this explains why Atmos isn't available, as there is no Atmos soundtrack on the old transfer.

Somebody has messed up somewhere.

I've been through, and there's a lot of Paramount films old & new that are Vision not Atmos on iTunes (in the UK, at least)... Bumblebee, Turtles, Terminator: Dark Fate... But some (like Sonic The Hedgehog, Baywatch, Rocketman) are there and do have both.

So I'm not that convinced we will see Atmos added to Top Gun or anything else. :(

It’s just I tunes that doesn’t have atmos. The other streaming services do.

I emailed Paramount Digital yesterday asking if they were planning on adding Atmos for both Top Gun and War of the Worlds and I saw this morning they emailed me back saying....

Dear Customer,

We are working on your issue and we'll be following up as soon possible. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Best,

Support Group

At first I thought this was just boilerplate stuff and they didn’t even really look at my inquiry.... but maybe there really is an issue connecting the pseudo 4K with the lack of Atmos. Saying they are working on it makes more sense if there is a technical issue than just a boiler plate reply to whether there are plans to add Atmos.

In the iTunes Movies app, if you swipe down from the top to get chapter info etc., it displays shows HD Dolby Vision. Or, in the Apple TV app, I think if you press pause/menu it will also display the information. This is happening with a lot of 4K content at the moment due to lockdown restrictions.

See here: https://www.avforums.com/threads/are-apple-downgrading-movie-streams-again.2281151/

Apology time though. It turns out that the version with the old Paramount logo might be correct. I asked on the Blu-ray.com forum whether the disc has the old intro or the Paramount 100 Years intro, and one guy replied saying it was the old one! I'll slap myself later.

I’m pretty sure the version you watched wasn’t 4K. Both Apple TV apps say HD.

The old version has never been mastered in 4K.

Oh wow, it’s moved to Atmos in the UK too! 🥳

Well, it says so in the description anyway. Hurrah. Can anyone confirm that it and the HDR are now fully working in all territories?

Rob

I am getting atmos through my speakers here in the states with top gun through both apps on the Apple TV. Though it is does have issues playing content if I pause. And takes a long time to load.

In Sweden there is no atmos yet

Didn’t even think about that. Technology is supposed to make things easier, but instead has made owning movies far more complicated. It used to be “buy the DVD” and it couldn’t possibly get any better. Now we have to weigh disc (undoubtedly the best version, but in this case double the price) vs multiple digital versions.

Yeah seriously, what gives with this? I was overjoyed to hear it was finally coming to 4K, and I’d buy it in a heartbeat, especially for £7.99. But the soundtrack is so important in Top Gun, I’d be better served by the Blu Ray and its DTS Master Audio soundtrack that I already have. If it was DTS:X, like Apollo 13, I’d expect it. But there seems no reason the soundtrack wouldn’t come with the upgrade too, especially as it’s Dolby Vision. Unless it’s the only way they think anyone will buy the new Blu Ray editions.

Any sign of an update? It’s not out on UHD Blu Ray in the UK until June 8th, so they have until then before I admit defeat & either make do with what I’ve got already or waste more money & space on yet another physical version of this film (VHS, DVD, Blu Ray, Blu Ray 3D & counting...). I should really hunt down the Laserdisc version one day. 😀

Rob

I have my Apple TV setup to play native format and non hdr movies play in sdr on my tv. Top gun is kicking my tv into hdr mode. It might not be real Dolby vision but it is switching my tv to hdr mode.