Activity GPS issues after watchOS 7 and iOS 14 updates

This morning I upgraded my iPhone XS Max to iOS 14 and my S4 Watch to watchOS 7. I then went for a run, using the Outdoor Run activity on my Watch as usual, holding my iPhone while I ran (as I was listening to a podcast with AirPods). When I finished, everything was recorded as normal, and I could sync the activity to Strava.


Later, I went for a walk. I used the Outdoor Walk activity on my Watch, but this time didn't take my iPhone. When I returned, and attempted to upload the activity to Strava, I received a warning that no GPS/route data was present. I checked the Fitness and Health apps, and sure enough, there was no route on the map - only the starting point.


I spoke to someone at Apple Support and they suggested I turned off/back on a couple of related privacy settings. I have since tried another Outdoor Walk activity, without the phone present, and the problem persists - no GPS/route data.


My wife also tried the same this evening, after upgrading her iPhone X and S4 Watch too. She had the same results - i.e. with just the Watch, no GPS/route information was saved with the activity.


This seems like a bug to me. Has anyone else experienced the same issue, or has any suggestions as to how to fix it?



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Posted on Sep 17, 2020 1:24 PM

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Posted on May 8, 2021 11:43 PM

It also seemed to me, as if turning wifi off on the phone and watch helped. My theory is that the phone doesnt use GPS on an active workout and thus falls back to locating me via nearby wifi SSIDs. This would also explain the extreme rubberbanding of the position indicated in Apple or Google Maps on the phone while a workout is running on the Watch. But some time ago I was pretty sure that I turned Wifi off and still got really low quality of location tracking on a workout....


I think there is something wrong with the phones location API that doesnt want to go into "full power" GPS tracking during a Watch workout so the watch just receives garbage location data...


The only real 100% working workaround is turning on Airplane Mode on the Watch before workouts so it has to use its internal GPS. This has always lead to perfect tracking for me.

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Oct 12, 2020 2:02 PM in response to F_E_C_V

I reset my AW3 and reset my iPhone 11 Pro Max. After that I did a restore from iCloud. Maps/GPS tracking is back now, but all old maps/GPS data from old workouts are lost. Even for those before the upgrade to iOS14/WatchOS7. I also assume that is cause something went wrong with the health/Fitness DB during the upgrade to iOS14. I can‘t believe that this happened and I am curios if the data is lost.

Oct 13, 2020 7:43 AM in response to F_E_C_V

I had another interaction with Apple Support yesterday. I can also appreciate the comments in this thread around the quality of Apple Support. Ever since this started, I had three people (two advisors, one senior advisor) in Apple Support tell me that local backups are the same as iCloud backups. Thanks F_E_C_V for explaining the differences between iCloud and local backup!


As I'd like to keep hope alive that all workout information will be restored eventually and also use somewhat functional product in the interim(like seeing maps for new workouts), I created two backups, iCloud and local encrypted backup on my Mac, and restored to see what data would come back.

  • Restoring from iCloud gave me a health database of ~1.93GB of documents and data in the Health app (data was ~650GB), starting pins in the route map for workouts prior to the iOS 14.0 upgrade.
  • Restoring from local encrypted backup gave me ~2.03GB of documents and data in the Health (data was ~750MB), no starting pins on the maps in workouts prior to iOS 14.0 upgrade.

I called Apple Support with this information and the question which backup to restore from in order to maximize possible workout data retention. The senior advisor didn't understand the problem really, claimed that iOS 14.0 was still in beta, and oddly favored a restore from local encrypted backup over restoring from iCloud backup. They claimed that activity data and workouts are only stored in the local encrypted backup - even though my test showed that activity data is the both types of backups. They were really most concerned about resetting the workout calibration.


Anyway, I ended up restoring the phone from iCloud and subsequently restored the Watch. I can see a new map for a run last night (Watch only, no celluar), I can also see the activity bars in the Fitness app on the phone now matching the Activity app on the Watch. It looks like the problem appears to be addressed moving forward.


MayoTom - The senior advisor didn't instill confidence that maps from workout prior to the iOS 14.0 upgrade would come back. But then again, they were off on a lot of things.


This was a terrible experience yesterday, it was the first of its kind with Apple Support in a decade of being a customer. I hope this is not becoming the norm moving forward.

Oct 15, 2020 4:19 AM in response to iGuyZA

I did the Apple recommended fix (backup, unpair, reset, pair again) and it seemed like it was all working, and then the next day my steps again didn’t match what was in the health app, and the GPS tracking didn’t track my walking route. I’m in a steps challenge and I’ll lose my money if I don’t get credit for my steps in the Health app. I scoured my settings and came across the “Data Sources & Access” part of my phone. In that section, there is a list of every data source I have ever used. It lists several watches (one for every time I reset and repaired) and my old phones too. I went to edit, and moved my current Apple Watch and current iPhone to the top of the data list, and my Health app synced my correct steps immediately.


My GPS route yesterday is now represented too in the Fitness app. It looks like my GPS routes from this summer are gone in the Fitness app (but I wonder if I moved the data sources around again, if they would show up?) I’ve never paid much attention to the GPS and I don’t care if I lose those since I walk the same trail every day.


Anyway, Health app steps and GPS tracking in the Fitness app are working now for me, and I hope the next update will restore everyone else’s data.

Oct 21, 2020 6:28 AM in response to anachrotech

I gave my experience many pages ago and I'm really sorry to hear so many people still having the issue or being forced to restore both iPhone and Watch to solve a map issue. Luckily for me I solved just unpairing and pairing again my Watch. If restoring the phone solves the issue but breaks past activities is unacceptable (restoring two devices to solve a workout issue? Come on, I'm surprised they give it as a solution). I had many positive experiences with Apple Support in the past, both at home and around the world. This is not on par with what we are expect from Apple. The 72 pages of this thread are a testament themselves to a huge issue that deserves more attention from Apple.


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Oct 22, 2020 9:35 AM in response to Tim_Doe

After hearing 14.1 doesn't help I bit the bullet and used my developer account to go to 14.2 beta 4 and 7.1 beta 3.

I just tried a walk and the gps was tracked.


BUT, it made no difference to old workouts. Activities recorded with the workout app shows the start location, activities from strava and iSmoothRun show no map data at all, not even the start point.

Oct 22, 2020 11:57 AM in response to TC!

I did a factory reset off the watch a few weeks ago and that didn't work. What did eventually work was software updates.


I'm in the Public Beta program, so as I said in my previous comment:


iPhone: iOS 14.2 Public Beta 2 --> iOS 14.2 Public Beta 3

Apple Watch: watchOS 7.0.1 --> watchOS 7.0.2


This is exactly what fixed it for me, but judging by all the comments in this incredibly long thread, it seems like what works for one person doesn't work for all. That really annoys me, but I encourage you to try the steps I took to see if it helps.

Oct 29, 2020 2:21 AM in response to Alaindh

Just to save you a lot of pain and replies it is not a watch issue, it is a phone issue. The watch records GPS just fine, it just does not transfer it properly to the phone after a workout. Does not matter if you carry the phone, or if you use the watch on its own - it is the transfer from one to the other.


All other apps that use the data direct from the watch work fine (Strava etc) - just their own app.


In basic terms the developers broke the data import.


Makes no difference if you have a 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6. The issue is a phone with IOS 14. The issue remains on 14.1 and discussions here from those that have a beta version of 14.2 say it’s fixed. That version is likely out in the first 2 weeks of November.

Oct 29, 2020 8:54 AM in response to Alaindh

Yes, I bought a new AW6. The problem remained. The only fix that worked for me is the apple support document instructions followed to the Tee. I tried backup and restore from imac instead of icloud and that did not work. Also after backup to icloud, wipe and restore of iphone, my old gps routes and information came back. Interim routes after update to ios14 remained lost, after restore from icloud, new activities show gps routes, heart rate and battery drain appears to be normal. Dont think this problem has anything to do with model of apple watch more to do with ios14. Hope this helps!

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