spinning wheel icon next to wi-fi indicating network activity

The «bunch of other ones» you and I can see, dedfar, are public ones (news and other announcements).

The Moderator also eliminated your «link to the recording».

It doesn’t matter. I know what y’all are talking about, even though my iDevice isn’t exhibiting the issue.

Sorry to hear Neuralnet and dedfar. Also on the iPad Pro 11" myself, and the issue was causing rapid battery drain. Keeping fingers crossed my luck holds out, but expecting the icon any second. Will post back later.

Keymusic88 wrote:

… I’ve also called Apple and submitted feedback. …

That’s good! That’s what everyone that is experiencing this issue should do. (After all, complaining here will change nothing.)

… They[Apple] need to come up with a fix!! 😡

Provided they(Apple) can find anything that they can fix.

All we can do is give Apple as much high quality Feedback as we possibly can.

I’m not an engineer, but I’m not so sure that “by definition it’s a software issue”. If it’s a software-based problem, then why aren’t ALL the phones running the same software exhibiting the problem? Can’t there be an issue on the hardware end, perhaps with one of the network radios, and the persistent spinning icon is just the resulting software symptom?

I was thinking the same thing. It may be a software issue, but if it’s only affecting certain phones, then there must be something hardware related also. I’m not an engineer either, but my son is an electrical engineer, but I don’t think I want to bother him with questions about this. 😊

Welcome, dedfar, to Apple Support Communities!

You have provided a good exposition.

However, it does miss the possibility that the requisite hardware signals may simply not exist, at least under certain conditions.

I certainly don’t know whether this is the case, or not.

I’m simply pointing out the possibility.

Hi Halliday. Even in that case, the driver could handle it and avoid this condition. Its job is to account for the hardware it's representing. Even in the simplest case they could just de-activate the indicator altogether. I cannot think of a case where a hardware replacement would be needed.

dedfar wrote:

Hi Halliday. … Even in the simplest case they could just de-activate the indicator altogether. …

That would be one possible “solution”, but that “solution” may be just as unacceptable to users as the current situation.

… I cannot think of a case where a hardware replacement would be needed.

If the aforementioned “solution” were to be employed, I would expect such to be unacceptable to many users, who would, then, clamor for «a hardware replacement».

Besides, what is or is not «needed» is really up to Apple.

Keymusic88:

Since there is no «solution» outside of Apple, all anyone can do is provide the best Feedback we can, to Apple, and let them do whatever they can do about it.

Any further discussion, here, is unlikely to provide anything further, toward any potential solution.

Keymusic88 wrote:

IMHO that’s no reason to delete posts from people who are simply giving opinions.

Actually, there is a good reason.

From the Apple Support Communities Use Agreement:

«… do not post Submissions about non-technical topics, including:

1. Speculation or rumors about unannounced products.
2. Discussion of Apple policies or procedures or Apple’s moderation of the Site.»

I WANT TO DELETE ALL MY POSTS IN THIS THREAD BUT APPLE WON’T LET ME. WHOEVER IS RANDOMLY DELETING POSTS FROM THIS THREAD BECAUSE THEY DON’T LIKE THEM, DELETE ALL OF MINE. I RECIND THE RIGHT TO HAVE MY POSTS DISPLAYED IN THIS THREAD.

He doesn’t work for a trillion dollar company like Apple, but he does design circuits for a multi-billion dollar company, so I usually trust his opinion. Of course I’d probably trust his opinion anyway since he’s my son. 😊

Keymusic88 wrote:

I guess I’ve been banned from marking replies as helpful …

Probably not «banned». Once you’ve marked some number of comments as “Helpful”, within a single Discussion, the system doesn’t allow you to mark any other comments as being “Helpful”, within that Discussion.

I have often found that to be too limiting.

Baylorpink wrote:

I've spent hours trying to resolve this issue with Apple and keep getting the same end result. They're aware of the problem and have no fix. For the last six months.

That’s unfortunate, Baylorpink, but not unexpected, based upon other indications.

Machine_Ruse wrote:

Not sure if it’s just me or not, but the issue has been especially bad the past two days. It takes multiple times of activating Siri to get the spinning indicator to go away. I’m talking between five and ten attempts before the “fix” works. It normally works on the first try, with the occasional second or third attempt required, but it’s been especially stubborn the past two days.

That’s unfortunate, Machine_Ruse.

I have no idea what could have caused this change in behavior.

Is this independent of the way you “exit” Siri. (Remember, there have been something like three different methods used.)