MacBook Pro bricked after failed Big Sur update 😵 ⚰️

Hi Guys and Gals.


I saw that there was an update to Big Sur today so clicked update. It all downloaded fine and I clicked all the items to go ahead. It said it'd be a while so i stepped away from the computer. When i returned the screen was black - no status bar, no nothing, but I could tell the LED was on. Nothing would wake it up so I eventually held the power button to force a shutdown.


Now it won't boot. Tried SMC, PRAM, holding shift, option keys, recovery mode etc etc. Tried all many many times.


The only thing that happens is the LED for the screen turns on. So i can see it's slightly lit black, and the apple logo on the outside of the screen is lit up.


An automatic Catalina update destroyed my dads iMac a month or two back - resulting in a new SSD and a cracked screen from opening it up. And now my MacBook Pro (A1502) is now dead?? What's the deal?


At least it would boot into recovery mode - this one won't even get to the loading bar, or chime when i'm trying to reset the PRAM!


Any ideas? I've done everything I know to do. It was working just fine before the update, and now i'm kicking myself. Cant even do a restore from my backup!


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MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 10.12

Posted on Nov 13, 2020 7:32 AM

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Just for info sharing, it was reported that unplugging the IO board (the one with the SD-Card, HDMI and USB port) allows Big Sur 11.0.x to further boot an "bricked" MacBook Pro Late 2013 - to finish its Big Sur 11.0.x OS install.


Once done, connecting an USB or Thunderbolt LAN adapter gets the MacBook Pro back connected to the Internet (because the unplugged IO board incl. also WiFi and BT - so not working so far anymore) and then allows Mac OSX Updater to search and update to latest Big Sur 11.1.x (Apple reported to avoid the "brick" issue with).


Once Big Sur 11.1.x update has finished, reconnecting the IO Board, the "brick" issue is solved without any hardware replacement needed.


So, wondering if it ever was/ is a bricked hardware, while this seems (at least for some) that it was/ is just Big Sur 11.0.x stuck the IO Board and therefore from booting, but Big Sur 11.1x update solve it quickly (by getting this installed with the method described above).


May this is helpful info (if not known by Apple Genius Bar Experts) and offers another way to "repair" an "bricked" MacBook Pro Late 2013 (or Mid 2014) by lower costs for the value of the users affected.

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Dec 3, 2020 5:11 AM in response to iulia161

Hello again from Duesseldorf - Germany


I just came back from my visit to Apple Genius Bar Düsseldorf and I had the most unpleasant customer experience ever!


I picked up my unresponsive MacBook 2013/2014 after installing BigSur refuse to pay the 500€ for the repair.


My intention was to make Apple aware of this problem of the new OS system destroying older systems, so I asked how can I escalate this issue to the Apple Engineers.

I haven’t required any free repair or discounts - I was just asking how can I escalate this issue.


The manager I talked to, told me following:

  • I cannot report any issues / problems at Genius Bar because they I only fixers and do not communicate with Apple.
  • They are not interested in customers having issues with older devices.
  • They don’t recognize that this OS is causing any damages so far and if so, there are older devices anyway.
  • Apple is not responsible for any updates failures - if the device gets broken is too old.


I am speechless.

Dec 3, 2020 1:17 PM in response to nuoptik

Hi all,


I have also a MBP 15'' late 2014 (16GBRAM, 256GB, etc...). I have not installed yet the Big Sur update because I'm used to wait a few days.....and then I saw rumors abut this, so I decided not to install it.


I am in Spain, and I haven't heard any concern about this problems from any other spaniard, nor I've seen (at least until 3 days ago) any information regarding this issue, and I think is so important it should be taken into account here.


My question are: Is the problem currently solved?, I mean, with any latest update -11.0.1- the problem still happens?. Which are the exactly models affected?


I guess Apple has not recognised the error yet, so my best bet is still reading this post until there is guarantee an installation won't convert my MBP (which I'm really happy with) in a MacBrick.


Thanks!.

Dec 3, 2020 1:48 PM in response to XCrob

I'm in a similar situation to you - I'm in New Zealand and haven't heard any concern about this problem from any other kiwi either. I have a MBP 13" Retina Early 2015 and I have purposely been holding off installing Big Sur because of all the issues and concerns that I've read, which needless to say is extremely alarming!


The idea that Apple just suggests it's a hardware fault (by replacing I/O boards and charging customers for it) and is not caused by the Big Sur update is absurd and ridiculous to me, and completely unjustifiable. Pure logic alone suggests that when a machine is in perfect working order prior to a software update, and then stops working immediately after the update - what other conclusion can there be other than the software update caused the fault!?


So I have the same question... is this problem currently resolved? Has Apple recognised the problem and is fixing it?

Dec 7, 2020 12:56 PM in response to ndv27

Hi ndv27. Thanks, but what do you mean by authorised service? It has been difficult for people to establish contact with or recognition from Apple that this is a problem that can be fixed by anything other than replacing the logic board at the expense of the user. Where abouts in the world are you, and how did you get Apple to accept/offer this solution?


It seems other people are still struggling with being offered anything other than a $500 bill for a new logic board.


thanks.




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Dec 8, 2020 1:59 PM in response to nuoptik

I'm in Russia. There is no Genius bar. Authorised service are service companies operates as Apple official agent. See my post above. I rejected suggested repair for about $800 and escalate the problem to the second level via phone call support, then after engineer level investigation Apple give me (direct to the service) exclude code for free repair.

Dec 13, 2020 3:26 PM in response to ndv27

Reading this gives me a glimmer of hope..

I have a mid-2014 15” MBP which has also been bricked. I spent about an hour on the phone to Apple Support UK explaining the problem and they tried to troubleshoot as normal.. of course with no luck. They set up an appointment for me to take it to an Apple Authorised Service Provider, which I am doing tomorrow.


I am trying to prepare myself as best as I can for this appointment. I’m not a super techy guy but I have done my research on forums and YT so I can try to sound like I know what I’m talking about..


This is 10000% an issue caused by Apple and I refuse to pay to have my laptop fixed. Any advice on my appointment? I’m nervous!!!

Dec 13, 2020 10:49 PM in response to RiizzoUK

Rizzouk,


Good luck with this! Apple are not claiming responsibility for their software breaking the I/o Board which was working before the upgrade. Seams to me we need to find somebody with power to have a 2013/14 MacBook Pro and complain at top level. They know it was a faulty version. This is almost battery fare all over again. I would if you can escalate to the national news papers this will then be sorted very quickly. Apple hate bad press. France took Apple to court over the battery problem for iPhones and won.


it needs the same but this is much bigger problem customer data and work time is at risk not to mention thousands of people who can’t communicate with family because of this was their only computer.


I hope you are successful. Still won’t get everybody fixed for free.

Dec 15, 2020 7:02 AM in response to treaders

Hello!

I’ve left my 2018 MBP at tech repair 30 days ago. I inquire daily on progress of the case. Until now Apple hasn’t provided a diagnostic yet, let alone a solution for the my problem.

I too was initially bewildered by Apple response...now I’m getting really frustrated and infuriated by this lack of assistance. 30 days without my main working machine is unacceptable under any circumstance.

I’m glad some people are getting proper support from Apple, specially those with access to Official AppleStore, but I suspect I’ll be given the option to “escalate” my case for more 30 days.

I find all this shameful and I will never accept to pay a cent for this. All this makes me question my future commitment to Apple products: I didn’t mind to pay “higher than competitors” prices because I trusted I was acquiring a better, more reliable and more supported product...but then I get this issue, and worst, this support!?

Dec 15, 2020 10:26 AM in response to ame1nc

I SO THANK YOU for ALL this INFORMATION!

AS I had SO many problems after the installation of CATALINA {it STILL continues]!

I DO hope they don't suspend you~as Apple did me, when I wrote that I had such PROBLEMS w/that installation!

MOJAVE worked PERFECTLY for me! Plus, I had just had my device--a "vintage MAC PRO" repaired!

SO I AM SO GRATEFUL I CHECKED BEFORE INSTALLING BIG SUR-. due to my horrid experience with

CATALINA~

IF YOU SHOULD EVEN "see this" as Apple may totally remove my access to the Community!

Wishing you & your FAMILY-HEALTH & SAFETY during this TWILIGHT ZONE TIMES we are living in!

PEACE~regenad+

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