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MacBook Pro bricked after failed Big Sur update 😵 ⚰️

Hi Guys and Gals.


I saw that there was an update to Big Sur today so clicked update. It all downloaded fine and I clicked all the items to go ahead. It said it'd be a while so i stepped away from the computer. When i returned the screen was black - no status bar, no nothing, but I could tell the LED was on. Nothing would wake it up so I eventually held the power button to force a shutdown.


Now it won't boot. Tried SMC, PRAM, holding shift, option keys, recovery mode etc etc. Tried all many many times.


The only thing that happens is the LED for the screen turns on. So i can see it's slightly lit black, and the apple logo on the outside of the screen is lit up.


An automatic Catalina update destroyed my dads iMac a month or two back - resulting in a new SSD and a cracked screen from opening it up. And now my MacBook Pro (A1502) is now dead?? What's the deal?


At least it would boot into recovery mode - this one won't even get to the loading bar, or chime when i'm trying to reset the PRAM!


Any ideas? I've done everything I know to do. It was working just fine before the update, and now i'm kicking myself. Cant even do a restore from my backup!


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MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 10.12

Posted on Nov 13, 2020 7:32 AM

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Posted on Nov 13, 2020 7:39 AM

nuoptik wrote:

Hi Guys and Gals.

I saw that there was an update to Big Sur today so clicked update. It all downloaded fine and I clicked all the items to go ahead. It said it'd be a while so i stepped away from the computer. When i returned the screen was black - no status bar, no nothing, but I could tell the LED was on. Nothing would wake it up so I eventually held the power button to force a shutdown.



Sounds like you shut down will the install was still in progress...


How to reinstall macOS from macOS Recovery - https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204904



Restore from back up


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Nov 24, 2020 12:32 PM in response to nuoptik

I have a MacBook Pro 2014 edition. After installing Big Sur, during restarting it showed only a dark blue screen. No key combination worked out. After investigating it showed that the keyboard connector was burned out and I need to pay for the fix - 500€.

Is that the way Apple treats his customers trust in new operating systems?

Nov 25, 2020 12:56 AM in response to Mr.PT

I have access to an Apple Shop and I dropped the MBP on Friday last week for further investigation. Yesterday I got an phone call from the technician who told me that the problem is the keyboard connector and he’s not in charge to tell me how it got broken. He reinstalled Big Sur and said that everything is working fine now. The problem is I have to pay 500€ for this and I don’t think is fair.

I cannot trust that this OS will not cause further damages on my MBP.


They release 2 OS ( Catalina & Big Sur) who damaged perfectly well working MBPs.


Catalina - damaged the SSD card

Big Sur - damaged Keyboard connector


I feel very sad that Apple decided to go this road on getting rid of older systems.

Trust is more valuable than money.

Nov 25, 2020 2:51 AM in response to Mr.PT

The problem is that unless one has access to advanced diagnostic tools, you cannot prove that the update caused the failure. And even if you could, Apple can choose to hide behind its unreasonable terms and conditions, which nobody reads. Those with broken machines are entirely reliant on Apple behaving reasonably, ethically and with a degree of corporate responsibility. I don't believe that resolving it will make a material impact on their mult-$billion profits.


At present Apple as a company are not behaving responsibly and reasonably. You may be lucky to find individuals within the organisation that behave differently.

Nov 25, 2020 7:03 AM in response to nuoptik

From what I can tell, it seems to be a Firmware problem that has stopped the motherboard working. Apple issued a new version of the Big Sur installer, going from 20B29 to 20B50, that blocks affected models. I think these are 2013 and 2014 13" MBP's. So if you now see a warning that you cannot upgrade, be thankful.


For those people who have not yet tried upgrading, I suggest getting Catalina up to date anyway. I believe there may be a large security update for Catalina, coming, that may include firmware updates too. We all need to wait for Apple to come back to work next week, after Thanksgiving.

Nov 25, 2020 1:34 PM in response to Dana Higbee

Unfortunately I don't think it's a workaround that us users can do ourselves. They didn't provide any info on to how they did it but I can assume that apple have external recovery tools that can directly install OS's to the SSD. There's a chance that this workaround involved the temporary removal of the IO board as others have stated however as I said they didn't provide details on their fix. I just wanted to inform people that Apple fixed my device free of charge so taking it to them directly is likely the best solution.


It's worth noting that the invoice only stated a "Software Repair"

Nov 27, 2020 9:12 AM in response to nuoptik

Hi guys;

My Mid 2014 MBP just came back from Death! I tried to upgrade to Big Sur the very first day that became publicly available and just like so many nothing worked to bring it back to life but 5 minutes ago I tried for the very last time to try to power it up as my M1 is coming and I could not send this back as a trade! but to my surprise it immediately started to boot(verbose)and for about 5 minutes continued to do so and few restart till brought the Big Sur welcome and iCloud sign in!

Good luck.

Nov 27, 2020 9:29 AM in response to nuoptik

So here's where I am with my black-screening late-2013 MacBook Pro.


First support call ended with me being told to take it into Apple Service place. There's not an Apple Store near me but there is an authorised dealer/servicer nearby.


They ran what little diagnostics they could and couldn't get it restored.


Next call to Apple got me to a senior engineer who ran through all the startup keyboard combinations and ended with him escalating to some centralised engineering team. I asked what that meant and he said they collect information about failures together and analyse the information to investigate issues.


He ran through a load of questions about what the screen was showing, was the keyboard backlight on, what was plugged in when I ran the update, was there a power or networking outage while running the udpate, stuff like that.


He asked me to send a video of the laptop starting up too.


Sounds like they have put together a set of questions to ask when they encounter this problem and they are collating information about it. So I encourage you to try to get Apple Support to record your failure and pass it up to engineering too. The more failure reports they get the more likely they will be able to figure out what went wrong.


The guy's tone definitely changed when I told him I had an SD Card inserted when running the update. So I reckon they know about this. But are just getting enough evidence.

Nov 28, 2020 5:52 AM in response to apple-magic

Same here as apple-magic reported from his call:


I had a good call this morning about the brick of my MB Pro Late 2013 (showing only the grey screen with no further reaction). First I had a brief call with a front-service support guy who again reviewed my case and tried the usual key short-cuts but it did not work out again. Then he forwarded my call to a senior apple care engineer who filled some kind of form together with me, asking several prepared questions, in particular about the hardware setup (however, I had no external screen connected or a SD card inserted during the installation but only the bare MB running). He asked me to record a short movie about the failure and I sent him the movie via a special link. He then sent the filled form to Apple engineers in California. We scheduled an update call for next week. My experience in a nutshell: Once you get behind the first level support and have a personal contact with a senior engineer, you feel that your case is now taken seriously and there is apparently a pattern of failures for vintage MacBooks under the update on Big Sur. Obviously, Apple is about to compile the cases around the world and review them collectively. After the bad experience with my MB being totally crashed, I now have the feeling that Apple is no longer ignoring the cases and that is good news. Let's keep updated about the progress!

Nov 30, 2020 10:30 AM in response to hendrik222

I can confirm that a big sur 11.0.1 upgrade including 427 firmware bricked a late 2013 macbook pro 15 inch. Upgrade completed, firmware update noted in sys. profiler, slept & rebooted fine but machine failed to power-up after being shutdown for a few days. Tried NVRAM and SMC resets but was stone dead; no backlight or fans only power changing from amber to green after a while. Eagerly awaiting an update to the recent firmware update that supposedly enabled wake from hibernation with upgraded NVMe drives in late 2013 models. Was hoping to get a bigger SSD after big sur but I'll have to hold off for now.




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