IPhone 12 Pro Max Lens flare

Yeah I don’t get why the ultra wide lens doesn’t show any flares it’s just mainly the main wide lens that does it. It sucks that the ultra wide doesn’t look as good as the main lens it looks much less quality when you use it in low light

This was one example.

There are several Android photos with multiple dots posted to this very thread if you really want to view them; generally its one reflection per filament for multiple bulb photos or per intense reflection for sun photos.

Here's a photo from a Google Pixel 4:

If you look around for Samsung flare examples, there are many.

Na, just go to the video I've suggested. You'll see that Samsung performs significantly better than the iPhone. The iPhone other than reflection issues arguably takes better photos otherwise, this is the trade off we're required to make at the moment.

While working around flare issues is pretty straightforward, eliminating ghosting is not. Recomposing the picture to eliminate a light source means you are not taking the same picture. No sun in a sunset picture means you’ll miss a lot of shots. Just another reason why phones won’t/can’t replace cameras. The question is do the masses care? I suspect they don’t.

I think the cameras on the 12 pro max are quite good, but if you can’t shoot into direct light, you won’t be able to shoot sunrises and sunsets if the sun is above the horizon. Shooting at night directly into a light source is not something I do much, but how would you feel if you shot a total eclipse of the sun and it had green spots and ghosting?

Used Snapseed. I was extremely disappointed after I bought the 12pm - thought the camera was defective. Thought I had not had green dotts before now, but when I examined previous photos I also find them in photos taken with iphone 5 and iphone 7 plus. My experience is that they are clearer and larger on 12 (pm?).

1) People post pictures with a green spot or spots

2) Apple apologists claim that if you were a better photographer you would been able to eliminate the green spot.

3) Rinse and repeat.

I’ve been a photography enthusiasts for 45 years, I shot with a 6+ for 6 years, and then magically when I bought a 12 I forgot everything I knew about photography. From my first sunset photo shoot, all the images with the sun in the frame and shot with the wide angle lens have green spots in them. I call BS.

No, that lens flare is actually worse, as that type of flare cannot be corrected.

However, notice the green dot above the brightest light in the photo above.

Yep, not there in reality, gosh.

But as always, if you prefer the camera on that phone, feel free to buy one, you could probably even get one for the price you could get for your iPhone used - problem solved.

Yep, I remember. Oh the unrealistic expectations in this thread. I've been absent a lot of late. You just can't make people who are unwilling to understand the science of photography, that no system is perfect and that iPhone 12 is not defective. People who are unwilling to learn how to frame their subjects, will continue to come here and exclaim their phone isn't working correctly. And for them, it isn't. They don't understand photography. They expected point and shoot perfection. And they figure it's Apple. Surely Apple can make every photograph perfect.

I just received my iPhone 12 Pro Max, ran through the setup, and took a picture. I saw the green dots as I was moving around and thought "neat, something related to LiDar maybe or range finding" as they moved around as I shift angles and positions. However, every picture has them, every video, regardless of mode and camera app settings. So, not some fancy new tech. I've owned a lot of iPhones, and have a large iPhoto library. Lots of pictures from other iPhones even of the same setting, and guess what, no green dots.... err flares. I know what flares look like. This is some whole other level of artifacts. So, I started digging for information and found this thread. It's truly baffling, weird that so many are apt to call this "normal" while as many are here for the very same reason I am. We may or may not be professional's, but it isn't like this is iPhone 1.0, we've been around enough to wonder what-the-heck and we land here because we haven't seen this level of degradation, this amount of artifacts. So why all the arguing and condescending? What's going on here? We're just looking for a fix or some straight honest answers.

Anyhow, I'll buy the argument that it's something wrong with coatings or angles or reflections or whatever. Let's just say it is. There is a math to orientation of these "flares". You can twist and bend and reposition to try and minimize them, but it's very difficult. I doubt Apple is going to do a recall and revise camera systems to try and reduce it, but.... like I said, there is a math to it. The angles are precise, the colors are definite, why not just revise the software and eliminate them? As things are, every thing else about the phone and camera and quality is absolutely amazing, but there is a clear line in my iPhoto library now where I purchased this device and started taking pictures. Surely there is a solution.

Is it possible this could be solved with lens cover? I get that professionals will fiddle with angles and lighting and fully appreciate the upgraded capabilities, but I think what we're seeing in this thread is the disparity between pros and typical consumers. Sure a cover would downgrade quality, but it might be good enough, and with no artifacts and hassle for everyday use, plus if a consumer graduates to pro-consumer, they could just remove the filtering cover. I don't know if such a thing exists on the market, but the idea seems better than a total recall, which if I understand it isn't even physically possible to correct given the nature of the lenses. Still not convinced that software couldn't do the same, automatically, as consumers are capturing. Heck, just blending the green down to surrounding colors might be enough to calm typical consumers, and if a configurable option everyone gets the best of all.

No one cares about that little small blue dot , this is normal when you directly to the Sun , light flare from MAX in the street light or town , snapseed is a nopeneed. , apple needs to be rethinking for new models , pushing pictures and low light quality and not check flare how it works or try fix them , definitely they’re have technology to deal with it !! Mate 10 picture

Correct. If it was just the one dot due to bright subject then it would be manageable as it is on DSLRs. However, the lens flare is horrible and unpleasant in almost any situation with lights as a subject and renders night mode useless. Also, post processing as an answer is unacceptable especially since the same issues are present in video.

Back and forth, back and forth. People are landing here because they're experiencing a problem they haven't seen before, and they are not first time iPhone users, so they have reasonable expectation, experiences to not have this problem. Call it whatever you like and offer any kind of fiddling and angling and post editing of images as a solution, but no solution for videos, and the reason people are coming here is still truth. They see an outstanding, obtrusive, distracting, green artifact and it is shocking and worrisome on their new, expensive, iPhone. They think it is a problem, rightfully so. They aren't looking for an argument, they're trying to determine if they have a defective new iPhone, and then they are extremely disappointed to learn that it is a new "normal" problem. Sure, it's a flare, but from our perspective it shouldn't be there. It might as well be green rubber ducks littering our images and videos. Let's call it that. We've got green rubber ducks in our pictures and for all the iPhones we've had in the past, and a trove of images and videos in vast iPhoto libraries, we've rarely if ever seen green rubber ducks nor had to do anything special to avoid capturing green rubber ducks.

After seeing the green dots on 12pm, I thought I had not seen such before. However, a check of photos from nos. 5, 7 and 11 showed green dots - however, they seem to be a little less green in photos from previous iphones.