Love the cameras. But horrible lens flares.
And it seems it’s defective:
One the right, above the window. Green flares from tube lights to the left.
In the middle of the picture:
On the TV screen:
Will try out during the day and post
I can't remember if I showed these two photos here in this thread or in another one on this topic.
Here's a picture I took with flare. I could easily see the flare on my iPhone 12 Pro Max screen before I took the photo, which you could have seen if you were holding my phone as well:
Is my phone defective? No, of course not.
Without moving my position at all, I moved the angle of the camera relative to the scene and took this photo seconds later. Notice anything different? The flares are gone.
Yeah. I love Apple products. I love almost all the features and capabilities of the new iPhone 12 Pro Max. The battery life is amazing, and I'm making great progress taking advantage of the new Lidar and latest developer kits. Heck I even own a little Apple stock because I believe more innovation is in the pipeline and generally they are a solid company making high quality products. BUT, the majority of my photos AND videos with this latest and greatest model are littered with green ghosts. It's truly disappointing. Even for indoor photos and videos, you're going to have ghosts and green alien ships flying all around in your videos. If there are multiple lights in a room, even far out of frame, you're going to have green orbs for most or all. Interestingly, I've discovered that ONE of the cameras does NOT have this artifact, which tells me that it's not impossible for them to solve the issue, that at least one camera + lens arrangement is different, of what I believe is same quality, yet artifact free. I seriously doubt Apple is going to willingly do a recall to address it, but I also believe they could at least minimize if not reduce it via a configurable, optional software image processing technique. (And I wish they would. I also wish I could get the same quality photos and videos out of mine that I see flooding various forums boasting of the quality. Those forums and the intense opposition to what we're all observing here, and their support is all starting to make it feel like an ad campaign against us or gaslighting)
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252037681?answerId=254594664022#254594664022
This issue happens more in low light settings, when there is a high light source facing the camera.
The lens on the inside is round, the lens on the outside is flat.
The outside lands reflects the light off of the glass that is flat.
The inside or inner lens is round and captures the reflection off of the flat glass outer lens.
Yes, the green dots, lens flare, visible on photos at least as far back as the iPhone 6, phones from Apple, Google, Samsung, as well as professional cinema digital cameras using professional lenses.
Here is “green dot” lens flare from a movie shot using a $36,000 Arri Amira digital cinema camera with a lens that runs around $10K itself.
You can see the two green dots caused by flare from the two bright lights directly behind the subject.
There's nothing to fix, it's normal.
There are photos here of it occurring on iPhones, Androids, DSLRs and, in the post immediately above yours, on a $50,000 professional digital cinema camera with a $10,000 lens.
Here’s another source noticing the problem.
Just change the angle of the shot to eliminate the green spot and ghosting, and it’s is what you get. So this is the solution?
That's not a hardware issue at all, its internal lens reflections, or flare, and is normal and expected.
Here's an example taken with a DSLR; note the inverted light bulbs on the lower right.
The solution is to recompose your photos to avoid it or to use Snapseed or another program to eliminate them in post-processing.
I have at home a Huawei P20 Pro, iPhone 7, iPhone 8 Plus, iPhone XR and an iPhone 12 Pro Max. The latter is the only one that makes terrifying flares, like no other. One thing is flares and another that the whole photo is full of spots. I am a professional photographer, I have Nikon and Sony cameras, lenses of all kinds and no, a photograph of streetlights does not show spots like the iPhone 12 Pro Max does. The photographs that I have seen of Huawei, Xiaomi or Samsung are not as exaggerated as those generated by the iPhone. They certainly have a serious problem with the lenses. Some say here that a professional photographer would know how to avoid them. No, those flares on a mirrorless or DSRL camera don't appear. A photograph of streetlights, as some people have shown, does not make those spots.
One thing are flares and others are stains. For those who speak of professional photography, indeed, professional lenses solve this by adding internal layers that avoid these problems.
It is curious that Apple has an open folder for me to send photos and videos with the problem because they are studying it and they have told me that it is a serious problem and some of you here are defending it.
The flares are normal, the reflections caused by the bouncing of the light inside the lenses are not. Not because it is corrected by incorporating anti-reflective layers, the iPhone 12 clearly does not have them.
I'm watching videos from Samsung, Huawei ... and they have normal flares, but not this. As if that weren't enough, the green dots are further enhanced by photo processing, as can be seen when switching from Live to the final photo.
honestly it’s so bad that I have to contact Apple because there’s no way this is the way the camera supposed to perform. More photos from tonight and this is not about just altering your shot. I’ve never seen this on any camera that I’ve owned in my life
I have the same problem with an iPhone 12 Mini.
First of all I can't understand why so many Apple defend here. It’s a great telephone but....
No, it is not normal for a mobile phone camera to reflect a light source this heavy in the picture, be it on a pole, in the sky or anywhere else in the picture. We are not talking about a simple lense flare...we are talking about copying the light source randomly anywhere in the Foto and make it useless.
This was also confirmed by Apple support when I showed photos.
I was connected up to a higher ranking technician who said it must be defect and the device needed to be replaced.
What do I say... the new one of course has the same problem since it is obviously a problem of the whole 12 series.
I'm sorry, a single point in the picture may be normal but not what is happening here. I also find it hard to believe that no one in any product quality tests notices something like this before so that FOUR new models are are launched this way and are almost useless at night. (I know it sounds drastic but it's really like this... the ones, that film with their phone will confirm it). And this ,with a product that is often bought because of the good camera.
by the way... the problem completely disappeares with the ultra wide lense.
In my opinion, Apple must react with a solution...
Closing this thread. It has been established the iPhone 12 pro max, has tremendous lens flare and green dots issues.
I am keeping the phone though. I like the fact that it does take brilliant images.
In cases where there are problems, I will be using my dslr.
But day to day the pro max is a solid phone.
I went through quite a bit of old pictures and videos from my 11 pro max and never saw any flares. I took many Christmas pictures and videos of my children near the lit up Christmas tree last year and no green flares. I am not tech savvy and knew nothing about green flares bc I’ve never heard about or saw them first hand and I am not a pro photographer. I just became concerned about it when I noticed the green dots. I feel much better knowing that it’s not a faulty issue and that it is common on the most expensive cameras. I’m still in love with my new phone and a little editing will remove those flares :)
linyu144 wrote:
My husband is using Huawei also great camera and his phone doesn’t have these green dot
Huawei P30:
This is normal for all high end smart phone cameras.
If you believe the 12 Pro Max is worse than others, return it for a refund and purchase something else.
IPhone 12 Pro Max Lens flare
