Love the cameras. But horrible lens flares.
And it seems it’s defective:
One the right, above the window. Green flares from tube lights to the left.
In the middle of the picture:
On the TV screen:
Will try out during the day and post
I've had only Samsung phones for the last 10 years or so...I have never had these camera issues on any of them.
Decided to switch from an s10 to a 12 mini because I’m tired of huge phones...but it looks like I’ll be returning it because the lens flare issue is so bad in low light. These are expensive phones, this shouldn’t be a problem.
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I didn’t see any references on other phones like we have here. Your links only lead on dot glares. But we have here full mirroring of light sources. It ruins the whole video shooting and it cannot be avoided.
I have never seen such a defect on the video, either on DSLR cameras or mirrorless or on the phones of other companies.
Will be glad to see exact the same level of video defects on other devices.
Terrible 😕
Yes, the green dots, lens flare, visible on photos at least as far back as the iPhone 6, phones from Apple, Google, Samsung, as well as professional cinema digital cameras using professional lenses.
Here is “green dot” lens flare from a movie shot using a $36,000 Arri Amira digital cinema camera with a lens that runs around $10K itself.
You can see the two green dots caused by flare from the two bright lights directly behind the subject.
this is taken from my iphone 12. im not a professional photographer but this seems to be disgusting. even the iphone 11 has much lower lens glare but why they cant fix this issue with software update at to a certain point ?
I actually love the pro max, and its extremely good camera.
Felt like returning it back.
But I just cannot ise the Android phones. They have tonnes of issues.
Will try some other scenarios. Its good I am not much into videos.
Sadly, they will not be fixing this until they lose those big disks that cover the tiny lenses.
those big lens covers are, I believe, there only to make the device instantly recognized. Actually marketing over function. What a flat out disappointment. I returned my 11 for this reason. Most of the pictures and all the videos I took were useless in the short time I owned it. The fact they reflect green light shows Apple knows and tried to fix it. Good phone, really bad camera.
Those disks as you call them are there to protect the cameras. Those disks are sapphire. Remove them and you'll unleash issues you can't fathom. So many of you keep your cameras in your pockets. Grains of sand would damage the cameras very quickly.
Yes, my thoughts exactly. Those lens covers are causing that internal reflections.
As they increased the size of the lens, the problem became more accurate.
The images are otherwise great, especially the long exposure shots.
Neither the Xiaomi Mi10 ultra, or any if thr Galaxy phones (tried the FE 20 5g) have this problem.
This is light reflecting on the lens, from the side of the camera:
These are green blobs for every small light:
This is actually just evidence that not all lens 'flares' are created equal. This is a typical, aesthetically pleasing flare on a light source that is reminiscent of film and SLR photography. The ghost reflections and multiple green dots all over the place are aberrations of a different character. That this is the type of lens flare you get on a M10 shows that it's not just 'physics' and that it's a lot to do with lens design, coatings etc. it would be nice if the iPhone hardware/camera implementation could be refined to produce this kind of smartphone photography result.
Short of discoveries in optics or physics, it can't be.
Even Leica, who has been making lenses since 1914, can't solve the problem in the smartphone space despite working with Huawei to do so.
That M10 flare is just plain obnoxious to me - across the entire frame and something typically only obtainable with a star filter.
The dots and ghost images you complain of are very easily avoidable using basic photographic techniques.
The normal iPhone 12 has the same problem. This should definitely be classified as a defective. The light reflection/ghosting is why more prominent and distracting than it should be. Apple should fix this issue, not on Next year's phone but now. the lenses do not have the proper coating to reduce the reflection.
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the flare on a light source is typical, what the **** is going on with all of those dots on the wood on the photo above?! That's not even lens flare, we need to start using the right terminology. Flare from a light source is just completely different from random dots covering the screen
This is actually just evidence that not all lens 'flares' are created equal. This is a typical, aesthetically pleasing flare on a light source that is reminiscent of film and SLR photography. The ghost reflections and multiple green dots all over the place are aberrations of a different character. That this is the type of lens flare you get on a M10 shows that it's not just 'physics' and that it's a lot to do with lens design, coatings etc. it would be nice if the iPhone hardware/camera implementation could be refined to produce this kind of smartphone photography result.
Other manufacturers have stated it is normal, let alone for Apple.
Once again, you can read Samsung’s explanation of why it happens on their phones here.
They won’t be going away no matter how many times you exchange phones or what other brand of phone you choose.
I wish you the best of luck in your search for a phone camera that meets your needs.
It is lens flare. It is just that there are so many specular highlights and each highlight has its own flare. And it really isn’t even the lens causing the problem; it is the quartz bubble over the lens, so that it is reflection off the lens frame rather than the lens surface. The dots are not random. Each one corresponds to one of the points of light.
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IPhone 12 Pro Max Lens flare
