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Big Sur battery drain

Hi everyone! After upgrading my MBP 16" 2019 to Big Sur, I am facing shorter battery life than on Catalina. It's worse about 30%. My battery is in a pretty good shape - 58 cycles. Any idea what to do? Will the next update fix the problem? Thanks!

PS: I saw people having same problem at reddit.

MacBook Pro 16″, macOS 11.0

Posted on Nov 15, 2020 10:19 AM

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Posted on Nov 29, 2020 4:00 PM

Welcome, jonasboor and @All, to Apple Support Communities!


Many of us “old timers” have been trying to inform those that are “panicking” about this, but few are listening, and many simply seem to “listen” to each other “complain”, and “call” for Apple to “take action”.


This is what is well known, by those of us that are “old timers”:

  • Unless a computer has a hardware fault (such as a short-circuit, including an internal short in a battery), there is no way for a computer to use a great deal of energy without running programs being the cause! (CPU or GPU intensive processes, usually.) Of course, we all hope your computer’s hardware is and keeps running well!
  • Big Sur is a major Operating System (OS) upgrade. It is not a mere update! In fact, Apple considers it to be such a major upgrade that they actually increased the major version number, from 10 to 11, for the first time since 2001!
  • With any major OS upgrade, there are a number of “housekeeping” processes that run in the background (you won’t see them in Activity Monitor unless you change the View from the default of “My Processes” to “All Processes”): these are indexing all the files on your Data drive, analyzing and indexing all your photos/videos/music/books/etc., and any number of other “housekeeping” tasks to get the system ready for your daily use and convenience. (The results help make your system more responsive to your needs.) These will “settle down” when they have completed their “housekeeping” to the point that they are “caught up” with your files and such. (After that, just as with the previous OSs, they simply work as needed to keep up with what you change and add.)
  • There are third party programs, utilities, extensions, etc., that simply may not be ready for such a major OS upgrade: they can get “confused”, and can “run amuck”, on your system, until you upgrade these third party programs! Please be aware of this potential issue.


From Andrey Threat’s experience, it appears that there may be a possibility for issues in interactions, through iCloud, with other systems. However, this is still quite preliminary!


You can run Activity Monitor, with the View set to All Processes to see what is running on your system, and how much CPU or GPU or Energy they are using. (Note: it appears that not all background processes have been “instrumented” for Energy use. So, the listing of All Processes using significant Energy is likely incomplete. However, since the majority of Energy use is generally due to CPU and GPU use, these will show up under the CPU tab, in Activity Monitor. That being said, though, the total Energy Impact is not dependent upon having all programs “instrumented” for Energy use.)


The Activity Monitor is a good tool for seeing what is going on “under the hood” of your computer.


Any time you wonder what might be going on, on you computer, that might be affecting its responsiveness, Energy use, Heating, etc.; the Activity Monitor can, usually, help you get an idea of what is going on.


(Unfortunately, if your computer has hardware faults, Activity Monitor is not the best tool for recognizing such issues.)

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Dec 18, 2020 2:48 PM in response to Petrie1

Petrie1 wrote:

it is the 2020 intel version and came with Catalina and the battery was lasting a long time and I have upgraded to big Sur and the battery has been draining fast

Did you upgrade to Big Sur right away, or only after you had installed software and files?


(Sounds like you had been using your Catalina macOS for a while, before upgrading to Big Sur, as if it were just another update, without any thought about whether your software would be compatible with the brand new Operating System [OS].)


Note: clean installs of Big Sur has never caused anyone any issue: battery or otherwise. (Well. With the exception of some people adding monitors to M1 based Macs.)

Dec 21, 2020 10:45 PM in response to jonasboor

companies are not held responsible and that's the problem.

I bought my new laptop a couple of months ago and after this slurry Sur upgrade that I really didn't want to take, but felt like being forced by Apple, battery life is even less than any average no name laptop.

And yeah you the customer is wrong, because as the Apple's response foolishly says, every major upgrade has cost and we must be happy about our laptops dragging their feet, because the bloody no 10 is now called 11 and the goal post is changed once again.

Jan 8, 2021 3:09 PM in response to Alan Cook2

Well, Alan Cook2, “obviously”, your MacBook Pro (2017) cannot be truly «sleeping!!»—as in having its CPU being in the “sleep” state—unless you have a hardware issue (a short-circuit, somewhere, such as internal to the battery).


However, the MacBook will continue to run background processes (processes without a Graphical User Interface [GUI]) even when “put to sleep” (such as being “clamshelled”).


So. This still fits nicely into the context of the comment marked “Solved”.


Have you tried the recommendations within the “Solved” comment?


We, all as fellow users, are here to help you track down the errant background processes.

Feb 7, 2021 7:37 AM in response to Halliday

Hi all,

I have the MPB 2020 with Intel, having the same issue even with latest Big Sure and keeping system connected with power for 48 hour, same it was directly after the big sure release date.


i tried resetting all SMC, all other short names Pxxxx, nothing helped.

Window server in activity monitor with one opened window consumed about 20 percent of CPU, Safari about 13 percent.


any suggestions how to get back battery drive? Is there any way for to re-start housekeeping, so I can solve it forever?

thanks

Feb 7, 2021 3:54 PM in response to Stanley22

Stanley22 wrote:

Hi all,
I have the MPB 2020 with Intel, having the same issue even with latest Big Sure and keeping system connected with power for 48 hour, same it was directly after the big sure release date.

i tried resetting all SMC, all other short names Pxxxx, nothing helped.
Window server in activity monitor with one opened window consumed about 20 percent of CPU, Safari about 13 percent.

any suggestions how to get back battery drive? Is there any way for to re-start housekeeping, so I can solve it forever?
thanks

Have you tried setting the View, in Activity Monitor, to show All Processes?


The CPU usage you list («Window server … with one opened window consumed about 20 percent of CPU, Safari about 13 percent») is far from sufficient to account for a problem. (Their CPU use is close to normal, though WindowServer is a bit high.)


Have you been having trouble ever since upgrading (yes, upgrading, not a mere update) to Bug Sur? Or only more recently?

Feb 7, 2021 7:25 PM in response to Stanley22

We were told Apple is working on the issue of the new operating system and that any new updates requires more power temporarily. Months on and yet this issue is there. The later update released didn’t solve the issue.

we are supposed to believe that this operating system update has been such a great development after so many years that the revision number changed big time.

However, I would like to call the situation a major mess up. My newly purchased expensive Mac Pro is turned into an ordinary laptop. That’s all into it for me.

Feb 7, 2021 10:12 PM in response to mmabood

If you still have incompatible third-party software using your computer’s resources, mmabood, there is no “fix” that Apple can provide (short of preventing all third-party software from running—but no one wants that, I’m sure).


It’s not Apple’s responsibility to “police” the software you choose to run on your computer.


We, your fellow users, can help you clean up your system, if you wish.

Feb 7, 2021 11:32 PM in response to mmabood

mmabood wrote:

Big sir you can take the big sur issue to Microsoft and Opera to resolve. That’s not what I’m prepared to do

Microsoft has already produced versions of MS Office that are compatible with Big Sur.


As for Opera, you simply check for upgrades/updates.


Do you have Automatic Updates turned on, for your Mac App Store purchases? That will help make things easier.

Feb 8, 2021 11:54 AM in response to Halliday

thansk for reply.

basically I had all as I had in Catalina, basically no change in settings (expect of I turned off power nap on battery, which I had on Catalina). I have same networking as on I had on Catalina, so basically nothing changed.


I had mac on like 2m on when doing this screenshot.

Maybe question --> does the Mac do the Big sure housekeeping when on power supply, but it closed? Is there any way how can I re-start the "house keeping?"


thanks for help

Big Sur battery drain

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