Does anyone notice that Image Capture Apps (OSX) is no longer keep an original date after upgraded to Big Sur

After I upgraded my os to Big Sur. I found that image capture apps is no longer keep "an original date" when the photo is taken after I download all image to my external hard disk. I already set "Keep Original" in Photos' Setting in my iPhone 11 Pro and, surprisingly, there is no "keep original" menu to tick in three dots button in image capture apps just only "delete after import" (If i am wrong about this menu please tell me, such as there was no this feature before but I remember that it had)

Now I have to use Photo apps in mac to download the image and export original to my external hard drive which it quite very slow compared to image capture.

Please anyone help me how can I make image capture to directly download my images to my external hard drive and also keep the original taken date of every photos.

MacBook, OS X 10.11

Posted on Dec 6, 2020 7:48 PM

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DanaTN

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Posted on Feb 20, 2021 9:06 AM

I have an iPhone XS (14.2) and recently moved from MacBook Pro 2009 El Capitan (32-bit Extended Journal format encryption) to a MacBook Pro Big Sur (64 bit APFS File Vault Mac Encryption).

I had reached an issue where I could no longer get all my photos off my iPhone XS. Some wouldn't export out with Image Capture (or using the export with Preview app method) and I figured it was my updated OS on my iPhone situation and my older El Capitan Mac incompatibility.

So I decided to get a new MacBook Pro (64bit) thus my issue with getting photos off my iPhone XS to a portable hard drive would be solved. NOT....

Using Image Capture, if I drag the file from my iPhone XS to my portable hard drive (formatted to Fat32 so I can use on a PC or MAC) the file date is switched to current date/time. I loose the source date / metadata.

SOLUTION: I discovered if I create a folder on my MacBook Pro (Big Sur) and drag the file from my iPhone XS directly to that folder (using Image Capture) ... if you watch closely you will see the date on that file (within the Mac folder) show today's date/time and then switch to the original metadata (source date/time of when the picture was taken). Wait a bit of time for the Mac to do this conversion. I can then copy that file from my Mac to my portable hard drive (Fat32 formatted) and I am able to keep the original date my picture was taken.

Going from the iPhone XS straight to the portable hard drive with Fat32 there is no technology to keep the source metadata. The above solution uses an "APFS File Vault Mac encryption" technology to handle this.

I hope this helps someone. I reached out to Mac support and through a discussion and troubleshooting with the technical supervisor we discovered this solution. It's not the fastest method to get files to a portable hard drive but for me keeping the source metadata was very important and is a doable solution for me.

Thanks Apple tech support for bearing with me until we figured out a solution and pardon my notes if I called something the wrong thing but at least someone will have a solution.

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Feb 2, 2021 4:16 AM in response to Yer_Man

I routinely copy image and movie metadata date (the most important date) to the filename and file creation & modification dates so they should sort correctly in all lists. If some of those dates happens to be wrong it is then easy to copy the correct date to it.

Yer_Man

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Feb 2, 2021 10:37 AM in response to Matti Haveri

Matti Haveri wrote:

I routinely copy image and movie metadata date (the most important date) to the filename and file creation & modification dates so they should sort correctly in all lists. If some of those dates happens to be wrong it is then easy to copy the correct date to it.

I see you mention this workflow in the past, though I don't know why you do it. It's all extra work for photos when that info is already in the Exif. Video it makes sense for.

Jazznme

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Mar 14, 2021 2:11 PM in response to léonie

OMGosh! This is further scaring me! I am needing to export photos from my iPhone 12 Pro Max--because of iCloud going over my 50GB limit and I'm indignant about having to pay more to Apple for increased storage. But, Yes, my photos on iPhone are in iCloud, right? iCloud really confuses me. I just want to move them to my MacBook Pro 13" (2020) or my external back-up hard drive. I do not get why I have all these MOST UPDATED products from Apple and purchased with higher GB for more than ample storage--on both devices--and then have these iCloud issues. I just want my photos to keep their original dates--to save me hours of my life that I may not have so many left and would much rather do things I enjoy! Yardwork, pruning, landscaping and cooking!!

Apr 10, 2021 9:12 PM in response to Old Toad

well thanks, but I've checked both methods of viewing you show here and they just have the date that I imported it twice and still nothing indicating when I actually took the picture.

everyone here is talking about file types and stuff that I do not understand but I just wanna know if there's a way to show the original date and if so, how?

Jun 25, 2021 5:53 PM in response to DanaTN

Thank you, DanaTN! This worked! I really appreciate it.

If anyone is struggling with this same issue, you can disregard all of the comments about formatting your hard drive, or the notion that the metadata is there but that you're not seeing it; these might be the case, but if you're doing the same thing you did before Big Sur, it's the new Image Capture, not you. Scroll up to what DanaTN posted. They worked with Apple Tech Support and they came up with a workable solution to a real glitch!

Yer_Man

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Dec 29, 2020 11:20 PM in response to saljadeff

Videos don't have Exif metadata so that's no help.

What format is your external drive?

Dec 30, 2020 5:27 AM in response to Yer_Man

The videos are straight from my new iPhone 12pro. I’ve been using this same system to move images/videos to my external drive for years, and it no longer works. I’ll contact Apple directly.

felixsin

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Feb 2, 2021 2:20 AM in response to léonie

@Yer_Man:

The EXIF data is intact: it is the creation date of the file that is wrong.

@léonie:

No, I don't use iCloud on my iPhones (for my pictures).

Feb 2, 2021 2:21 AM in response to felixsin

File creation date of the file is arguably correct. It is giving the date that copy of the file was created on your mac.

felixsin

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Feb 2, 2021 5:32 AM in response to Matti Haveri

Hi Matti, do you use Automator to rename images?

Or what other system?

Thx, F

Jazznme

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Mar 14, 2021 2:03 PM in response to saljadeff

I have the SAME concerns and it is infuriating!

Yer_Man

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Mar 14, 2021 4:54 PM in response to Jazznme

What are you scared of, exactly?

If you don't want to use iCloud then just turn it off. Then copy the images over to your Mac.

hele89

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Apr 3, 2021 8:35 AM in response to saljadeff

Is there a fix to this? It has passed a lot of time since this post, and I don't see anything changed... Very annoying!

Jazznme

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Apr 3, 2021 2:15 PM in response to hele89

I agree! Totally annoying!! I have the same “beef”!

Jazznme

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Apr 3, 2021 2:16 PM in response to Yer_Man

I do not appreciate that response!

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