FCPX Best Export Format for Cable TV

Hello,


There's a new public access cable TV channel in my city, and I've been accepted to submit some content.


They accept the following formats: .MOV, MPEG-4, H.264, ProRes 422 normal or LT


They broadcast via Comcast in SD, but also have an Internet streaming channel at HD quality.


For my content, almost all of the videos are at 1920 x 1080 w/ ProRes 422 in Final Cut Pro.


So I'm very curious to know which of the above export formats would be best for this scenario.


Thanks for your help!


- Jim

MacBook Pro 13″, macOS 10.15

Posted on May 7, 2021 9:51 PM

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Posted on May 17, 2021 3:08 PM

my 2¢...


ProRes and AIC are editing formats. Delivery formats are mp4, h.264, heic... HEIC is not an available option to you and mp4 is ancient, so use H.264.


If you're going to call and ask the station, find out *which* formats *they* don't have to convert. Broadcast stations are extremely busy and they don't like wasting time transcoding video. Also, they will most likely convert to DVD format when they do which will hammer the quality of any video you send them. Don't think for a minute that they are going to broadcast ProRes 422 or LT which is at best 5 times the size of a corresponding H.264 file. [They don't CARE about quality — they only care that something is ON THE AIR.]


If you want to risk it without asking: my recommendation is h.264/AAC from FCPX as a Master File.


If you are doing your own SD conversions, here's a free Center Cut Safe Zones template you can use:

https://fcpxtemplates.com/center-cut-safe-zones/


(BTW - my local NBC affiliate still broadcasts SD doing this center cut technique and the logos and lower thirds are ALL chopped off at the edges!!!! So if your content is important to you — do your own work! Don't trust the station to treat your content with any reverence.)

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May 17, 2021 3:08 PM in response to bjorkj02

my 2¢...


ProRes and AIC are editing formats. Delivery formats are mp4, h.264, heic... HEIC is not an available option to you and mp4 is ancient, so use H.264.


If you're going to call and ask the station, find out *which* formats *they* don't have to convert. Broadcast stations are extremely busy and they don't like wasting time transcoding video. Also, they will most likely convert to DVD format when they do which will hammer the quality of any video you send them. Don't think for a minute that they are going to broadcast ProRes 422 or LT which is at best 5 times the size of a corresponding H.264 file. [They don't CARE about quality — they only care that something is ON THE AIR.]


If you want to risk it without asking: my recommendation is h.264/AAC from FCPX as a Master File.


If you are doing your own SD conversions, here's a free Center Cut Safe Zones template you can use:

https://fcpxtemplates.com/center-cut-safe-zones/


(BTW - my local NBC affiliate still broadcasts SD doing this center cut technique and the logos and lower thirds are ALL chopped off at the edges!!!! So if your content is important to you — do your own work! Don't trust the station to treat your content with any reverence.)

May 17, 2021 1:27 PM in response to bjorkj02

Well, after some (read: a lot of) research, it appears I should go with the following ...


  • Exporting a 1920 x 1080 (HD) ProRes 422 project from FCP:


- Share > Master File

- Video Codec = Apple ProRes 422 (As Source)

- .MOV

- Sound = AAC


  • Exporting a 1280 x 720 (HD) project from iMovie 09:


- Share > Export using QuickTime...

- Apple Intermediate Codec

- Sound = AAC

- uncheck 'Prepare for Internet Streaming' ...

Note: ''Deinterlace Video' should be checked, if there's an option to do so


The biggest question was whether to use ProRes 422 / AIC - or - H.264 for the Video Codec. As I understand, if I was exporting for YouTube or live streaming, I should go with H.264.


However, in this case I'm uploading to the cable TV station. From there, they'll take the files and downgrade them to SD and otherwise optimize for their purposes. Therefore, since more processing is coming after I deliver the files, then it seems most logical to export at the higher quality (ProRes 422 / AIC) to give them a better quality file to work with ...


Luckily, all these videos are between 3 - 6 minutes, so I'm probably looking at file sizes in the single digits of GB. Still pretty large for uploading over the Internet, but nothing so unwieldy as to make me switch to H.264.


Feel free to talk me out of this if you think I'm in error here ... Otherwise, hopefully this will help someone with the same question.

May 22, 2021 8:24 PM in response to betaneptune

Thanks again for all the input and discussion, and now I'm going to change my mind!


Instead of the previous conclusion -- which still seems like a great general rule -- it looks like this is my best option:


.MOV w/ ProRes 422 LT from FCPX as a Master File


Thanks to Tom Wolsky for pointing out the advantages of ProRes 422 LT. In addition, I realized that H.264 compresses the audio w/ AAC, while ProRes 422 LT outputs as Linear PCM. Since most of what I'm submitting are music videos, this is a another advantage.


So even though I suppose ProRes 422 LT is still technically an "editing format", it seems to also be a nice de facto delivery format between standard ProRes and H.264 ...


For example, with a 1920 x 1080 HD video (4:23 in length) at 30 fps + a 16-bit 44.1 kHz stereo audio track, the difference in export sizes is as follows:


  • Source - Apple ProRes 422 --> 5.06 GB
  • Apple ProRes 422 LT --> 3.59 GB
  • H.264 --> 739.9 MB


If I were creating long (say, 20-minute) videos, then I'd go with H.264 for practical reasons .... But in this case, since my videos are under (or around) 5 minutes, it seems this is the best option overall.


That said, as I've changed my mind on this already, feel free to talk me out of this (again)! But at least this is how it seems now with the information that's been given.

May 20, 2021 2:28 PM in response to fox_m

Thanks to everyone for weighing in, and this tangent on frame rates has been interesting, too.


To answer MtD's question, I did ask what the station preferred, and got this response:


Either H.264 or Apple Pro Res work well. MOV format is good!
For ProRes, the normal or LT should be sufficient. 


As you can see, not very specific, but probably still helpful....


So given this, along with fox_m's input, I think the answer is clear: .MOV w/ h.264/AAC from FCPX as a Master File


Thanks again,

Jim

May 18, 2021 2:20 PM in response to betaneptune

My recommended frame rate in the American market is 30 (HD or higher) or 60 (for 720). In a "PAL" market, 25 or 50. I suppose you can use 24 if it can be accepted (without alterations), but I simply do not buy into the fantasy that 24fps is more "cinematic"... Cinematic effect is the realm of the videographer's understanding of the scenes being shot and not the frame rate of the capture. It has to do with motion blur (shutter speed) and lighting (aperture + shutter speed + speed of film, what I knew as ASA now ISO.) Cinematic is captured, not made. Therefore, any frame rate can be "cinematic". [People are experimenting with frame rates up to 120 these days.]


The first rule is always *ask* the host station all the details of the format they *prefer*. They (stations) are not all equal (more affluent stations will have better equipment). If the quality of your materials matter then by all means - do the work (including the encoding) yourself. All they really want is a file they can plug into their programming schedule.


It's not really an exception... If you *value* the appearance of your media, do everything you can to keep OTHER PEOPLE from re-encoding it because they won't care.


My "rule" is basically a wake up call. STOP ACCEPTING THAT 29.97 (or the others) IS CONTEMPORARY. It's not. It's ARCHAIC. After July 13th of this year, every station in the U.S. MUST broadcast digital or go dark. [However, I think they've figured out a workaround to this mandate: streaming is not broadcast. Broadcast is OTA (over-the-air). So low power stations are making deals with local cable tv providers and continuing to use their old "broadcast" hardware.]


My "rule" is based solely on choice. If you have the choice — do NOT choose fractional. The reasons are many, a few of which are: 23.98, 29.97 and 59.94 are not simply those values — they are infinitely repeating decimals and cannot be accurately represented by digital. It thoroughly messes with timecode (time code is not time!*). The *need* for fractional frame rates DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE!!! It was an analog hack for an analog problem (fixing interference with waveforms). These *problems* do not need to be addressed in a digital environment.


This guy does a really good job explaining how fractional frame rates came about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GJUM6pCpew


I started waking up to fractional frame rates when I wanted to be able to create my own timecode/timing plugins. You can't for fractional rates in Motion, the logic is not there (as I said: timecode is NOT time in fractional frame rate video). Otherwise, for every other frame rate, I can create frame accurate clocks for (I'm confident enough to say it:) any frame rate. Before that, I would use 29.97 because I just thought that's what "everybody still uses" (how "IBM PC" of me). What difference did it make? It's just 30fps slowed down by 1%. Wait... What? How does that work? Is that something the software has to do now — "physically" slow down how fast the video plays? How does a computer handle a number like 0.003003003003003003003003003003003003003003003... Impossible / Not very well. It never really sync's with timecode. That's when I started looking into it.


I invite you to do your own research and formulate your own conclusions. My conclusion is: Fractional Frame Rates need to GO.

May 18, 2021 3:28 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

I was stunned *this* year to find out that low power stations are still operational using equipment I have not been able to find any information about. I got the info from somebody working at an LPTv station that they *have to* use 29.97 (he may have been lying to make a point — I wouldn't know the difference). Trying to get any information about the equipment they use is harder than finding out anything else on the internet. You can find current equipment available for sale — they all handle everything digitally, but try to find anything about what was used 30 years ago (but still in service)... fuggettaboutit. In other words: I have not been able to find out/verify how or why a 29.97 video source is required for transmission through any NTSC studio broadcast equipment. I shudder to think that old VHS videotape systems might be part of the distribution chain, but that might explain it.

May 20, 2021 8:52 PM in response to fox_m

Why do they "have to" use 29.97? Isn't it part of the standard? From the Final Cut help glossary:


NTSC format

The video standard defined by the National Television Standards Committee, the organization that originally defined North American broadcast standards. Analog NTSC video has 525 interlaced lines per frame, a frame rate of 29.97 fps, and a limited color gamut. Digital NTSC video has a frame size of 720 x 486 pixels (720 x 480 for DV and DVD), and a frame rate of 29.97 fps. See also PAL format.

May 20, 2021 9:33 PM in response to betaneptune

You don't need that much precision:

With 30 fps and a 4-hour program you get 432000 frames.

If you use enough digits to make the frame rate accurate to 1 part in 10 million, then after a 4-hour program you'll be off by 0.0432 frames. So you don't need an infinite number of digits. Also, computers can keep track of divisions. Try this on the macOS calculate: 30 / 1.001 * 1.001. You'll get exactly 30, even though 30 / 1.001 is an infinite repeating decimal.

And you've got the drop frame bit. But yes, if you have to fit your program in a fixed time slot, like 30 minutes, 29.97002997002997... is a pain.

Yes, 30 fps is much easier. No drop frame bit needed.

You asked.

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