HEIC photos on iPhone show as new items in Photos import window

I have been downloading photos from my iPhone and another camera for a long time and since 2017 the HEIC and HECV files have been converting when imported. When I connect my iPhone, they still show as new since the format is different even though they were already imported. I have 2000 or so of these. I cannot 'import all new items' or they will be duplicated in Photos, eating up storage space as well as making Photos a very awkward presentation or viewing tool.


Is there anyway to get the Mac to recognize the HEIC/HEVC files as already imported so they no longer show up as 'new items'? Now that I have discovered the settings on iPhone, I think I still want the files converted on import because jpgs and mov's are more useful formats to use outside of Photos and I would like to keep using the HEIV/HEVC format on the iPhone to preserve store space.


I am still using High Sierra, about to change to Big Sur on new iMac. Also, about to start using iCloud photos to get my photos off of the new smaller SSD drive.


See same problems, unsolved, in this post: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251907633




Posted on May 14, 2021 4:38 PM

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Posted on May 15, 2021 12:34 AM

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The problem is the conversion. Photos will only recognise them as duplicates if the file is exactly the same. When HEIC/HEVC is converted on download, it is no longer the same file.


The only solution is to manually choose what to download (only new photos), or to stop the conversion happening (on phone - settings>photos>transfer to PC>keep original). This will become less of a problem when you start using iCloud since the two libraries will be synced exactly.


Obviously this won't help for the images already downloaded. For these you could choose to delete the converted files on your mac for those where HE format is still on the phone, or to delete the unconverted ones on your phone, then sync the converted ones back to the phone from the mac.


Your last option is to wait until you've synced with iCloud, and then use one of the two (suggested round here) apps for removing the duplicates. (Power photos or photo sweeper)

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May 15, 2021 12:34 AM in response to bareiff

Hi


The problem is the conversion. Photos will only recognise them as duplicates if the file is exactly the same. When HEIC/HEVC is converted on download, it is no longer the same file.


The only solution is to manually choose what to download (only new photos), or to stop the conversion happening (on phone - settings>photos>transfer to PC>keep original). This will become less of a problem when you start using iCloud since the two libraries will be synced exactly.


Obviously this won't help for the images already downloaded. For these you could choose to delete the converted files on your mac for those where HE format is still on the phone, or to delete the unconverted ones on your phone, then sync the converted ones back to the phone from the mac.


Your last option is to wait until you've synced with iCloud, and then use one of the two (suggested round here) apps for removing the duplicates. (Power photos or photo sweeper)

May 16, 2021 12:46 AM in response to bareiff

I hate the idea of an external drive. The whole concept of the iMac is that it's a clean machine with no extraneous devices and wires. Every time I try to use a portable external drive, I lose track of what it's for because I have a few old ones lying around! But that's just me... (oh, I see you recommended a thumb drive. Would that really work?)

You need to have at least one external drive connected at all times anyway, or how are you making regular backups of your Mac? The easiest backup would be Time Machine to an external volume. As your iMac is sitting on a desk and not carried around like a laptop, it is no hardship to connect a few external drives. My external drives are labelled and sitting on a shelf behind the Mac, and the cables are also labelled, so I can see it a glance, which cable belongs to which drive.


The "Optimise Mac Storage" will help you to keep the local copy of the iCloud Photos Library small, but it will make it much harder to make regular backups of your Photos. You will still need to create regular backups of your Photos Library, but Time Machine will no longer be able to backup all high resolution originals. It is easier to have only a small iCloud Library and that does not need "Optimise" and to keep the full archive with all photos on an external volume.

An alternative would be to split your Photos Library - a smaller library for iCloud Photos (not optimized) and a full archive of all photos on an external volume. You can have many Photos Library, but only one of them, the System photos Library, can sync with iCloud and is available in the Media Browser for other applications.


My iCloud Photos Library is holding only my Favourites plus the new photos I am currently working on. This library is accessible on all my Macs, my iPhone, my iPad. I am regularly copying all new photos and videos in to my archive photo libraries on my archive drive with all my photos, videos, music. This archive drive is backed up to a second drive by cloning it with Carbon Copy Cloner. The Mac itself is backed up to Time Machine. I am rarely needing to access the archive drives with the full libraries. For most purposes the smaller iCloud Photos Library suffices.



May 15, 2021 10:51 PM in response to bareiff

There is really no significant benefit to having the jpg files on the mac. If you need a jpg version of a particular image, you can export it as jpg in a few seconds, then delete the exported jpg when no longer needed.


I have a folder on my desktop that I export to when needed, and then purge it every month or so. Plus it is becoming less and less necessary as more websites start to accept HEIC directly (Eg facebook) or convert them automatically when chosen from photos (eg mac mail).


It is certainly a lot less hassle than manually selecting files to import evey time you take new photos.

May 15, 2021 10:37 AM in response to bareiff

bareiff wrote:

I am still using High Sierra, about to change to Big Sur on new iMac. Also, about to start using iCloud photos to get my photos off of the new smaller SSD drive.

You do know that iCloud Library is a syncing service and not an off computer storage facility. To save space on your computer you'll need to select "Optimize Mac Storage" and that only kicks in when you have about 20 GB of free space remaining. However, this user tip can help you optimize the library more completely: How to force Photos for Mac to Optimise the Storage Immediately - Apple Community


Any time you want to use a photo outside of the library, i.e. print, email, in a project, you'll have to wait until the full sized version is downloaded to the local library before proceeding.


You might want to consider getting a small, external SSD to store and run your Photos library from. This one from OWC is an excellent choice and is small enough to be easily carried with a laptop: OWC Envoy Pro mini - best for laptops.


Just some food for thought.


May 15, 2021 1:08 PM in response to TonyCollinet

Thanks for the reply! That's what I've been doing - manually selecting only the latest new photos in the import window. It's just annoying having to figure out where I left off last time to do it this way, because it will always show new HE shots that were converted on the last import. I do like having the smaller HE (especially videos) versions on the phone to save storage (there looks to be a big difference in file size) and having the more useful jpg on the mac so I don't love the keep original option or even the sync option. Maybe iCloud photo library can help optimize my files on all devices and I can just go with the 'most compatible' camera option or just live with this situation. Too bad.

May 15, 2021 1:26 PM in response to Old Toad

Thanks for the reply, Old Toad. I was not really aware of that. Is it something like Dropbox 'smart sync'? Whenever I go to System Pref/Storage/Manage it gives the option in Photos to turn on iCloud Photo Library, thinking this would take the photos off the mac, and maybe iPhone if I run low on storage using 'Most Compatible' camera option.


I hate the idea of an external drive. The whole concept of the iMac is that it's a clean machine with no extraneous devices and wires. Every time I try to use a portable external drive, I lose track of what it's for because I have a few old ones lying around! But that's just me... (oh, I see you recommended a thumb drive. Would that really work?)

May 16, 2021 2:18 PM in response to léonie

Thanks Leonie! Sounds like you have a very complicated system. I guess since i have 250 GB of photos now, I need to do something more serious.


I do have an external drive for backing up with Time Machine, it's connected via ethernet and kept in a closet nearby. My only reason for doing any of this is to prepare for the arrival of a new iMac with smaller SSD, to reduce the storage on my computer , which has always been the central headquarters for my whole life, work and personal (of course with on and offsite backups). I've been carrying on with the notion that over the years storage space has gotten cheaper and cheaper and bigger and bigger (remember the revolution of the Iomega 100MB zip drives?) but I guess that is no longer the case.

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