Netflix Dolby Atmos problems with new Apple TV 4k

I'm having problems with random audio drops /popping with the new 2021 Apple TV 4k using the Netflix app and HBO Max app with Dolby Atmos shows. I had this with the original tvOS and now with tvOS 15.0. It is connected to a Denon X4400Hx. I tried a bunch of things with no success. Not sure if there is a hardware or software problem. At the beginning of the Matrix when the WB logo is coming up and there were small audio drops; I replicated this twice, but now it's working. Super annoyed and I'm worried about a pop blowing out a tweeter.


Is anyone one else having this problem?

Posted on Sep 22, 2021 12:48 AM

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Posted on Mar 5, 2022 6:18 PM

[TLDR] try changing your ATV4K Settings > Video and Audio > VIDEO: Match Content = Off to see if it reduces or eliminates this Dolby Atmos issue (even though such a video setting seems unrelated to an Atmos audio problem). Read on to learn the genesis of my theory.

So I just participated in a thread where the OP's issue was Dolby Vision-related, and the fix/workaround was to set the ATV4K's default Video Format to 4K Dolby Vision, and to set the Match Content Range and Frame Rate settings to Off. Doing so prevented the OP's LG TV from switching video modes in the middle of a Dolby Vision-encoded program.


I was reminded of this thread and it occurred to me that when dynamic range shifts between [Dolby Vision-encoded] scene changes cause the ATV4K (with the Match Content settings switched On) to make a TV switch video modes in the middle of a program, these same video stream events could easily cause burps in the [Atmos-encoded] audio stream playback (with varying effects depending on the AV components in use).


That's the theory. Perhaps this ATV4K Match Content behavior during Dolby Vision-encoded content playback might be the aggravating factor/trigger for [some of] the Atmos-related problems described in this thread.


Anyway, I scanned this thread and didn't find references to the ATV4K's Match Content settings, so I made this post to see if it makes any difference for all y'all :-).


PS - I have the older Apple TV 4K, an Atmos-capable Sony soundbar, and a cheaper LG TV that's merely 4K HDR10-capable (without Dolby Vision - so I couldn't test my own theory :-). FWIW, I've never had Atmos-related issues, so that sort of supports my theory because I've never experienced these Dolby Vision-induced video mode changes that might trigger them.

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Jan 1, 2022 8:32 AM in response to ChristopherRomano

For the record: my system is a 7.2.2 layout via Pioneer SC-79. I do have a HDFury AVRKey splitter going from ATV to the Pioneer (audio) and LG OLEDC6 (video). I have always thought one of the glaring omissions from the ATV is no HDMI audio out.


As far as guessing on speaker layouts, etc., as contributing factors to our situation remember there is an awful lot of audio information but no where near as much information as video information and, for all of us, the video hasn't been the issue. Those without Dolby Atmos have not had issues, which is the vast majority of people, so that's likely why few people have investigated this issue.


As we know the old ATV 4K no issues and now issues with the ATV 4K 2021. From what I read the major ATV changes were hardware changes aimed at the video which, again, leads us to software as the goblin for the audio issues.



Jan 4, 2022 6:19 AM in response to A2thdoc

I have gotten this problem (dropout, followed by chopping audio until it re-synchronizes) with HBO Max -- specifically, "The Matrix Resurrections". Happens nearly every few minutes on Netflix "Drive to Survive" although rebooting the Apple TV lets me go longer (maybe 15 minutes) before it happens. I don't recall having this problem with Disney+ or AppleTV+ but I haven't watched those much recently, so if the problem was introduced by a recent software update, it might not have been triggered.

Jan 8, 2022 9:54 PM in response to BidiM

FYI look at the linux tech tips video on high speed cables. You don't have to pay much for great cables. That said I have tried a bunch of including certified short 48GBps and I am still having issues and it's a combination of Netflix and this new ATV 4k. The new non ATV 4k stick plays netflix Atmos fine. I thought 5.2 fixed it but no Silent Sea has several audio drop outs and one pop in the first three hours.

Jan 18, 2022 2:08 AM in response to BidiM

Hi,

my setup is a bit complicated :) So I have an Asus ROG Swift PG32UQX monitor and a JVC XP-EXT1 sound system with Dolby Atmos. I connected my Apple TV to an HDMI Matrix (https://www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/B083K39RHF/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=296CPVF11CIQL&keywords=MX42HS&qid=1642499724&sprefix=mx42hs%2Caps%2C122&sr=8-1) to copy my HDMI signal to both devices. It works very well except for the audio dropouts.

My Apple TV settings are, 4K HDR, Dolby Atmos, and chroma 4:2:0. I tried chroma 4:2:2 but I think I got more often dropouts. My cable length is 0.5 meters to the matrix and 0.25 meters from the matrix to my sound system. I have no issues with my PS5 that is also connected to that matrix. The Playstation has only a 7.1 linear PCM stream as the highest settings you can set. I will try my Xbox Series X with Dolby Atmos soon. I think there is an Apple TV app as well.


But I think it is an Apple TV issue and don't hope that is my sound system.

Jan 21, 2022 2:01 AM in response to rickdarris2004

I got 100% the same problem with a brand new ATV 4K.

NV Shield without any problems using Atmos via eARC or direct on an Denon X8500HA.

Using the ATV 4K Atmos, sound dropouts under Netflix, AppleTV+ and Disney+ :(

Did tested Prime yet.


Alle cable are 100% 48Gb Audioquest and as I wrote, no problems with the NV Shield.

I would like to use the ATV as my main streaming source, because I like AppleTV+ with

his integration form others streaming apps. But with this Atmos problem, I´m not sure

if I should stay with the ATV.

I don´t understand, why Apple does not react on this issue. The forums wourldwide are

full of threads about this issue. When calling the support, they just ask for the standard

questions on cables, internet speed and what ever. We have to push this issue hard to

get any answer from Apple. We need a standard bitstream HDMI Audio Out, I´m sure this

would fix the issue.

Jan 22, 2022 5:51 AM in response to marekfromdrnovice

Unfortunately 15.3 (not released yet) does not fix it yet. It is reduced. Not fixed.

I was not sure it is TV os related as for me Disney plus did not show the issue. But, i see above that also Disney plus has it.

I may have had a very little stuttering on Disney plus. But barely noticeable so there is difference between apps it seems.

Anyway, support indicated Applenis aware of the issue and are working on it.


I wonder if the ever will do passthrough as that would disable their 'compression' option in the pull down menu. That always requires re-encoding i would expect


Jan 23, 2022 3:44 AM in response to ChristopherRomano

So I found time to test a movie on my Xbox Series X and have the same issues with my Apple TV. I watched Wolfwalkers on TV+ in 4K HDR and Dolby Atmos and had during the movie 3 dropouts and one video dropout. After the first drop out I disabled chroma 4:2:2 to 4:2:0. Then after the next dropout, I changed the bits per pixel from 12 to 10 and disabled the passthrough for sound. But nothing helped :(

But maybe the problem is my setup. I have a PS5 and an Xbox connected on an HDMI switch to choose between both consoles. Then after that switch is another switch to switch the output to my HDMI matrix or LG television. On the HDMI matrix, I connected my sound system (JVC XP-EXT1) and my Asus PG32UQX Monitor.


Now I ordered a HDFury Vrroom that I can remove all my switches. That matrix have 3 output then. 1 output is for audio-only and it will stream a 1024p black picture with Dolby atmos then and the picture to my other 2 devices.


My monitor has HDMI 2.0

My sound system has HDMI 2.1


My current matrix has HDMI 2.0 and the newly ordered HDFury will have HDMI 2.1 with 40 Gbps.


So I don't know where the problem is. Dolby Atmos technology, devices, or setup?

Feb 3, 2022 4:35 PM in response to BidiM

That's what I thought. I was thinking that ATV4K to AirPods Pro might be a useful test. AirPods Pro I believe do support Atmos, but I believe the the ATV4K would have to send it differently (no MAT 2.0 where I suspect the problem is). I believe this test should verify the Atmos decoding in the ATV4K is working, but I could be wrong. It could support only Spatial Audio, but I believe it can use Atmos sources.

Feb 6, 2022 8:18 AM in response to Andypeppa

I tried opening a support case with Apple today and they want me to take it to a service center (Best Buy) for repair. I don't think I will waste my time. I tried to get the Apple rep. to look at this discussion as evidence that there is a larger issue at play, and he said that he could not because:


"There's no outside internet access. It's a potential security breach for our system, and they take that very seriously. So we can access our own system and internal network. We can't access the outside internet at all, because that would risk our own information as well as potentially everyone else's."


Never mind the link was from discussions.apple.com but based on this response, it is not a safe assumption that anyone at Apple is actually reading this thread. If you are seeing this and actually want the issue addressed, please open a support case with Apple to get more visibility into this issue with their developer & engineering department.

Mar 7, 2022 11:29 AM in response to img60

img60 wrote:

Thanks for sharing your theory. I don't believe the DV Match Content and Atmos
issues are related. I have never noticed any video anomalies associated with the
Atmos glitches/dropouts. Also, others have noted that the Atmos issue is also
present in Atmos music streams, so that would be unrelated to DV.

I have both the Gen 1 and Gen 2 ATV4K units (both currently connected to my
Denon AVR so I can test the latest tvOS beta releases) and never had the Atmos
issue on the Gen 1 in the same setup.

Yes... after scanning this thread for "Match Content" references without finding anything and posting my theory/query, I read a bit more deeply and noted the observations pointing to a Gen2-specific bug (making my theory less likely).

[...]
To be honest, I haven't noticed any Atmos
issues on the last couple [b- e - t - a -s] while watching DV + Atmos content on Netflix,
but it could be that I am watching less problematic content.

Well then, fingers crossed for a fixed update :-). Thanks.

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