How to turn OFF 'Smart HDR' on iPhone 13 pro max camera?!

I just bought the new iPhone 13 pro max. I cannot figure out how to turn off the auto smart HDR on my camera. All of the photos I take look overly sharpened and unrealistic. There is no toggle in camera settings to turn off 'Smart HDR' like there used to be. PLEASE HELP!

iPhone 13 Pro Max, iOS 15

Posted on Oct 4, 2021 8:41 AM

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Posted on Mar 19, 2022 6:58 PM

ProRAW has some processing done, but less than images from the Camera app.


Third party apps have access to RAW sensor data, but you must save the files as RAW DNG files and post-process them using additional software such as Lightroom on a Mac as you would need to with any camera's RAW files.


The "sharpness" missing from the RAW files are because it's a single photo, and ProRAW (and Camera) photos are actually computationally combined images of multiple photos taken at multiple exposures - the processing you dislike.


RAW photos are just a single shot so are much more sensitive to exposure and lighting.

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Dec 10, 2021 6:46 AM in response to RusInc

No, they don't.


There are some threads with "Me Too" numbers in five digits, and they don't monitor those, either; for reference, in Q3 2021, Apple sold an estimated 49 million iPhones; if even 1% of users had an issue and posted here that would generate 490,000 "Me Too" clicks.


These forums are exclusively for discussions between Apple users, except for some Apple employees who answer quick questions and the moderators who monitor for violations of the Terms of Use.

Dec 10, 2021 6:53 AM in response to kelseyleanne

Yes.


By definition RAW photos are direct output from the camera's sensor; Apple's ProRAW is that with some light processing.


In either case, it is assumed you will use a program like Adobe Lightroom, Adobe Photoshop, Apple Photos or Apple Preview to tweak the parameters of the photo as it won't look good without some processing.


Grading is usually defined to be editing all your photos to use the same color space and similar color parameters.

Dec 12, 2021 7:19 AM in response to Dogcow-Moof

You mean file a report that you'll never get help with and won't be acknowledged? I called. Spent 2 hours. Gave them my logs. The rep was super nice but had no knowledge this was a thing. Callback scheduled tomorrow. 99% sure this phone is going back.


Couple of possibilities.

A. Some people got good batches of this phone.

B. Some people don't notice the HDR overcompensation, over sharpening, lens flares or don't care.

C. Some people tend to shoot outside in the daytime where the issues are minimized. They show up mostly inside in lower light or with any mixed lighting situation. Or at night when shooting towards lights.


As far as C goes, should we have to cover all our windows with blackout material? Or should we have to change all our bulbs to be vaiable CRI balanced color temp to match the current window light or computer / light in a room? That's just ridiculous.


I can literally take my phone with the live screen preview and tilt it up and down and if it catches ANY window light the whites in the room visibly shift to a pale yellow. If I move slightly and elminate more of the window light all the whites look white. So yeah, I can adjust the angle of my shot, sometimes. But what about video? Does anyone want their whites ping ponging back and forth between yellow and white? Does anyone want their skin tones jumping back and forth one shot to another looking fine and then like a tangerine?


Again, If you got a good iPhone 13, awesome for you! Envious.

Dec 12, 2021 7:21 AM in response to Dogcow-Moof

They shouldn't call it RAW. In my case I have yet to see one single photo where the color or lighting compensation looks any different between regular and RAW. The only thing Apple RAW does is preseve more data so you have more to work with in adjustments in post. This is NOT true RAW. For my particular device is makes ZERO sense to shoot RAW. It looks the same and the results are equally horrible.

Dec 12, 2021 8:24 AM in response to AppleSFamily

I don’t see any of that.


No yellows or colors that are off in video.


Do you need to cover all windows in your case? Yes!!


Any cinematographer knows that having a mix of color temperature lighting is going to be a mess as far as white balance is concerned, and auto white balance does what it can.


If you insist on mixing natural and artificial light, you either need to have daylight artificial sources or color grade in post, which every professional does anyway.


The phone does what it can when presented with two wildly different “whites.”

Dec 13, 2021 2:41 PM in response to Dogcow-Moof

Yeah we all do it wrong. Look at this photo I took the first day on my new iPhone 13 pro


it was pretty good before I press that shoot button, I opened my library and like - what the ****, who messed up with all of those colours. And then I read about smart HDR )


I’m no doubt they will add this option in the future but how long should we wait.

P.S. i’ve filled that form to contact apple u have posted before. No reply ) but they mention that they will not reply on every message they receive

Dec 13, 2021 2:50 PM in response to Dogcow-Moof

It was much better before smart hdr messed up colours, they are too bright - sky looks super unrealistic so blue and some spot super white.


I know they will because here already more then 200 people press that "me too" button. And I knew for sure one day Tim will face the same problem 😂

and cmn this is just a small toggle which all others phones have except iPhone 13 🤨 also they added this toggle for video recording (okay its call just HDR video without that "smart" word), but not photo

Dec 13, 2021 7:12 PM in response to Dogcow-Moof

I am a pro media person and a regular human being. When I do shots for work you better believe I custom white balance and control the light. When I’m at family parties or with friends I’m not about to blackout their windows and change their light bulbs. That’s just ridiculous. Previous iPhones didn’t require 100% controlled lighting and faces didn’t look like blurry tangerines.

Dec 14, 2021 1:35 AM in response to AppleSFamily

Don't have multiple colors of white light present and the phone won't try to adapt, that's all I can tell you.


Any camera that does auto white balance will have the same issues. If I try to shoot my Nikon D850 with AWB on and one bulb is daylight and one soft white in the room, it's a complete toss-up as to what color white will be, as you would expect.


Faces don't look like blurry tangerines, that's a massive exaggeration.

Dec 14, 2021 3:54 PM in response to Dogcow-Moof

Yes, every camera has AWB and will make a decision on what is white, but for some iPhone 13s (and you must not have a bad one) it massively over compensates. So whites look very noticeably yellow. I’ve never experienced such poor color technology on any camera DSLR or phone in almost 15 years of pro photography. And the flesh tones are the same. Dig deep enough online and you’ll see peoples examples. Putrid orange and red tones, even African American skin tones. It’s Apple’s processing. Again, if you got a less aggressive 13 I’m thrilled for you.


When I talked to an Apple support tech again Monday he said, “Yeah, I’d go buy an 11 Pro instead.” Now why would he say that?

Dec 15, 2021 2:53 PM in response to kelseyleanne

Just got the phone yesterday, I was thinking I’m missing out something until I realized there is no control over hdr. I bought this phone for its camera and it’s hiiighhhly disappointing.


something the images come out too ugly and overexposed, phones half the price of this does much better job. Why does apple always make things hard for its users!?


Highly disappointed!

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