Logic Pro 10.7 very slow on loading projects and plugins

After updating to 10.7 loading projects become extremely slow - especially while loading plugins. Each plugin takes a lot of time before starting with new one. It’s much much slower than previous versions.

also when inserting plugins in channel

strips - it takes a lot of time and rainbow ball of death frequently appears before plugin opens and gets displayed in insert slot.

is anybody else experiencing this?

Mac mini, macOS 11.6

Posted on Oct 21, 2021 12:08 PM

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Posted on Jan 20, 2022 4:30 PM

I just got off the phone with Apple Support about this issue (a call I scheduled with their Pro Media folks yesterday). While I was on hold I started to do a little debugging.


I started with a fresh project with a 10-second blank audio recording. Then, I saved it and opened it back up. So far so good, nice and fast. Then, I added RVox, a Waves plugin. I saved and closed the project and tried to re-open it. Bingo. Slow!


So then I started searching the Internet for slow Waves plugins with Logic Pro. I came across something that said I should run "Waves AU Reg Utility" which basically scans your plugins and registers them as Audio Units. I ran that utility and it said it errored out, but when I launched Logic Pro again with that test project it opened up right away!


I then tried opening one of my projects that has been really slow. Zing! It opened up with no delay.


Then the Apple Support person came on the line and I told him that I think I had solved it. Fortunately he was nice enough to explain that ... if you are running on macOS Monterey, plugins will only work properly if they are registered as Audio Units.


He send me a link to a document that explains some things you can do to troubleshoot Logic. Hopefully this also helps someone else here. My projects are all opening nice and fast now. I wish I would have discovered this two months ago.


Here is the link to that document: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201199

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Nov 5, 2021 11:54 AM in response to elhean

I just updated to the new 14" MBP M1 Max + Monterey. I'm running the latest Logic 10.7. When I load projects, I have to bypass plug-ins to even open the session. Once I go into my audio preferences and re-enable core audio, it can take up to 10-15 mins before the spinny wheel goes away. Up until that point, the session is basically frozen with tiny jolts of movement when I try to engage with the arrange window. That being said, it only seems to be an issue with sessions that weren't started on this computer. For sessions I start on this computer, it doesn't seem to be an issue which makes me think it may have something to do with Monterey converting older session files from Big Sur and accommodating them into the new ecosystem. Super frustrating but I assume they'll get to the bottom of this issue soon!


With all that being said, this new MBP is a beast and can run sessions with tons of plug-ins both native and 3rd party, with alarming consistency and speed. I'm blown away. I just wish these silly little issues would be resolved before they released this beast into the wild but I guess it's the price us guinea pigs pay to play a part in the release process. All love.


Cheers



Jan 3, 2022 3:59 PM in response to Enrize

I have restored a MBP late 2015 Intel, loaded Monterey and Logic 10.7.2 and the machine is a beast. Love it. Though I’m scared to load 3rd party plugs. My M1 Mac mini I restored to Logic 10.6.3. And it’s running well in Rosetta only though not blindingly fast. In Native, projects crash on opening. The M1 Mac mini was set up using a Time Machine back up from an an intel mac. I’m beginning to think I need to wipe the M1 and start from scratch. Anyone done this? If I can get the M1 running as well as the 2015 MBP on Monterey and 10.7 I’ll be stoked.

Jan 19, 2022 4:06 PM in response to Elianmusicguy

Not sure when help or update will be provided but if possible I would HIGHLY recommend downgrading to 10.6. the difference in speed is absurd & points to an issue located within 10.7, as 10.7 is still fairly new & we are unsure of apples presence on sites like these, believe it would be best to just circumvent the issue for now & continue in your creating! Best of luck

Nov 6, 2021 11:14 AM in response to elhean

I purposely bought a new 16" MacBook Pro (16 GB RAM, 1TB HD) to get the performance and portability (away from my 2015 iMac, using Logic Pro 10.6, Catalina, 24 GB RAM) to work on music via Logic. When you see videos of a base model of these new things shredding 8K video renders you'd think (at least I did) that such a m/c would scoff at anything related to music files....sadly not thus far after 3 days of using it the overall experience is disappointing - from a performance perspective. I've repeatedly had the "your system has run out of application memory" message and showing Logic is using over 130 GB of memory (not sure how that's even possible!). This is after maxing out buffer sizes and forcing the m/c do use all 8 performance cores (was worse with "recommended" setting). Nothing was brought over from my old iMac, new install of everything and a quick song idea tested was using a total of 10 software/real instruments, mostly using SampleTank and IK/Softube plugins (only 5 sends). Now maybe Logic 10.7 is part of the problem and, even tho Rosetta 2 isn't saying there are problems using my 3rd party plug-ins, there could be some issues there too. Interestingly, but maybe not so surprising from other comments, there is ZERO appreciable difference in project load time for this test song between my M1 Pro MBP and my old 2015 iMac. With this currently reality, this m/c is definitely NOT suited for professional use and I'd cringe at the thot of throwing more of an intense project at it. So, three options I suppose:

1) wait for Apple to fix anything problematic that may be going on with 10.7 & hope most big software developers get their stuff Native ASAP, and keep this m/c

2) give Apple even more $$$ and upgrade to a Max chip with 32 GB RAM...and hope it has sooo much headroom that it'll overpower constraints from 1)

3) return the m/c and walk away, sticking with the limitations of what I have....but know very well


Any feedback or thots appreciated. Take care!

Jan 21, 2022 6:15 AM in response to elhean

My biggest problem is how utterly long it takes 10.7x to just open the app. Compared to 10.6.x it takes 3 times as long. Also the inconsistencies of which plugins work only in Rosetta, and ones that still work in native M1 mode that aren't actually Native, is all over the map. In one mode or the other, trying to open a plugin that only works in whichever mode, crashes logic out entirety, having to start the slow startup process all over again. There really needs to be a way for Logic to tell which plugins show in each mode and which don't load shouldn't show. It's out of control. Plugin handling needs a lot of work.

Apr 26, 2022 7:44 PM in response to elhean

I think Logic 10.7.3 stinks. Every quick swipe gives me a beach ball. It is so slow that I hardly can get any work done. I am running a 12 core trashcan with 64gb ram. it works fine on my M1 pro Laptop w 32bg ram, so I suspect it has something to do with them optimizing it for the M1 chips. I just restarted logic and the song and now it works better. Maybe there is a memory leak?, since I did not change anything else. Did anybody else experience this?

Oct 28, 2021 3:48 AM in response to cigame

I am still running Big Sur and do not have an M1 but an i7 2018 MacBook but have the same issue of never seen spinning ball time blocking everything and sometimes requiring a complete restart. An interesting observation I made when I am running Logic Remote on an iPad. When I load an additional instrument track or open a new or existing project on my MacBook; the remote iPad finishes loading the project or specific plugin content seconds before Logic on the McBook has loaded it fully and is ready to go.


Comment: all my libraries are located on a Thunderbird 3/USB-C connected SSD (Samsung X5, 2 TB) and when not connected to my VEP server are a bit short on RAM but 10.6 was managing that without major issues just an Overload from time to time when playing too many MIDI tracks with library plugins.

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