I bought a m1 macbook pro, but im trying to install virtual box, but im getting an error about system:aceleration...
I have searched about it and m1 was not compatible with virtualbox but that forum i saw talked about that a year ago.
I really wanna know if there is any update about that theme...
MacBook Pro 13″, macOS 11.6
Oracle has not released a version of VirtualBox compatible with M1 devices. Parallels Desktop 17 (subscription) is compatible with Big Sur on M1 devices, but the guest operating system must be compiled for Apple Silicon ARM, as X86_64 operating systems are not supported.
I spent lot of money on macbook air m1 chip but there is no use. It has been 1 year over still there is no solution. It is better to go with windows laptop rather spending too much on apple product like this. I am planning to sell my macbook and will get the window laptop.
It does and you’re right.
I’ve been working in IT for a long long time and it’s easy to gloss over all of the things you shouldn’t. People do it.
When upgrading your laptop and buying the newest of the same brand most folks don’t expect that and downplay their testing or simply wouldn’t expect such a drastic change. Maybe they even install it and it appears like it’ll be fine.
ARM processors aren’t typically used in high performance applications and Apple has really created the best ARM chips of all time, it’s quite an achievement. But look at high performance server systems and you won’t see ARM there. Lol. People that develop software for these backends don’t need ARM desktops they need the same configuration.
>Now, it would be helpful if Apple mentioned some of what you said.
Again, we are not their target audience. They are not going to spend millions on a marketing campaign to educate non-Apple developers.
Besides, we should be tech savvy enough to figure it out for ourselves, or at least a lot better, then Apple’s actual target audience. And to prove my point, you are here with more machine and software experience than the vast majority of Apple users.
You are not going to change Apple’s mind, you would be more productive seeing is anyone has ideas on how you can still do your job, but with a different work flow, involving different software and or hardware (as maybe your own intel mini test system in your hime). For example, do you have a Synology NAS? You can install Docker images on a Synology so you can test AND have a backup system. 😱
In the past I've used RoaringApps to determine compatibility with a new OS or architecture. It does list M1 compatibility for a wide variety of apps.
For those of us who've been around the block a few times, "upgrades" often include lost features. Horses typically won't jump off cliffs. (Cars will.) Early computers had variable word sizes (try finding that today). The G5 -> Intel architecture change of recent Apple history similarly caused a number of things to break, and I've been missing the speed (if not the extensions problems) of System 6 for decades. Not everything labeled as "progress" is good.
stevefromaitkin wrote:
Not quite that simple... I have a MacBook Pro running Monterey 12.4 on an Intel i7. I can't run virtual box...
Best check for updates, then visit the VirtualBox Support forums, then. I’m running VB on an i5 Monterey, and it works.
also if it's windows you wish to install in virtualbox then you can't run the intel (x86) version even if virtualbox support m1(arm) cpus
Hey, can you return it and get a refurbished model with i9 in it, 32GB memory?
It's not a normal problem, you're expecting to be able to use translation to emulate a CPU and run a virtual version of that same emulated CPU.
Ha, docker hardly works too.
Best effort only for x86.
What developer doesn’t use docker locally these days?
I’d return it or sell it and get a nice refurbished x86 mbp, that’s my plan in a few months. They’re great!
If you purchased it within the last 14 days you can get a full refund.
I don't understand why anyone would think x86 virtualization software would work on a different processor architecture.
Currently, Oracle VM VirtualBox runs on the following host OSes:
Plus >> VirtualBox is a general-purpose full virtualizer for x86 hardware, which the M1 or M1X are not part of this
I realize I may have not been clear, I do understand what BootCamp does and how microprocessor architectures and instruction sets differ.
Why I mentioned it is because of my frustration with the current zeitgeist of forced obsolescence without backward compatibility.
Having a "BootCamp-like feature" (the ability to boot into another ARM64 OS, via a separate partition) or booting from USB Drive would provide some alternatives for working around the Apple limitations. There are other ARM64 based Linux distros that I imagine might play nicely with Apple Silicon.
I don't need to run x86 binaries, specifically. I can do a lot of dev work on a Raspberry Pi running Ubuntu.
The reason we went with iMacs with the M1 is to try and get ahead of the x86 obsolescence that is right around the corner for Apple so we can at least go a couple of years before replacing another 15 to 20 macs.
Honestly, it sounds like you didn't do your due diligence before making such an expensive purchase. If you had a response of "I don't know" about whether an apparently critical piece of software would work, that sounds like further research is necessary. During your demo would have been the appropriate time to actually *try installing windows* (or linux or whatever you're depending on).
Meanwhile Macs back to 2012 are still receiving security updates on Catalina, and some models from 2013 can even run Big Sur. So those "old systems which work fine" are, in fact, still safe to use. There was no need to upgrade right away.
I’m wondering when Apple will address this. They state that Rosetta will resolve these issues when in fact they do not. M1 based laptops cost a lot of money yet they do not provide the features we require.
How are developers not just doing iOS / MacOS dev using MacBook Pro’s supposed to work with these M1’s?
No Virtualbox? No versions of python < 3.10?
No Parallels? No Bootcamp to Windows?
What other things will be found missing when we need them?
Does anyone have any advice on what to move to next? 64GB of memory laptop without Windows?
Cheers
Virtualbox Mac m1
