Mac Studio with Logic Pro X - Latency and glitch issues

Hi there,


I recently received my new Mac Studio (M1 Max, 64gb Ram, 32 Core GPU) and have installed Logic Pro X.


I'm having a bunch of glitching and latency issues, and the CPU meter is far too alive for my liking. Having researched before buying, I was led to believe that the M1Max with 64gb Ram should be more than capable - and probably over powered, but I'm incredibly disappointed with the performance so far.


Running Logic Pro X with 6 audio channels, and a handful of plugins, and the CPU meter is running at just below 25% Processing Threads, and then spikes above that, which is very frustrating. I wouldn't mind if I was running a bunch of processing, but there's virtually nothing and all stock plugins.


I've used Logic Pro for years, and until recently on a 2015 MacBook Pro, which honestly performed better than this Mac Studio.


If anyone has any tips I'd greatly appreciate it. I've adjusted and tried various latency settings - currently I'm trying it at I/O Buffer of 64 samples, and have tried 32, 128, 256, 512, 1024 - which is ridiculous really because its unplayable with the recording delay in the upper settings. A machine this high powered should be handling this with ease.


Please help! I invested heavily in this machine and am hoping it is something I need to change in settings, because right now I'm considering returning it.


As a side note, this is the second MacStudio I've had - the first arrived DOA, completely unusable and also with massive CPU spikes. I returned it and received the replacement last week.


Thank you



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Posted on Jun 15, 2022 2:44 PM

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Jul 31, 2022 6:14 PM in response to MacMotorCo

Remember that when you post here, the only Readers are other Users like you.


Apple Movers and Shakers do not troll the forums looking for problems -- they get complete, packaged problems with full system and hardware information in Bug Reports.


So if you want to move the issue along, contact Apple support and work with the First responders, and when you have the opportunity, ask for a specialist. Specialists have deeper technical knowledge, but FAR less patience. Ask them to file a new Bug Report on your behalf, or add you to an existing Bug Report.


Get Support


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Sep 24, 2022 4:08 PM in response to ThePianoMan456

Hey I have found something that somewhat works!

  1. Go to FINDER - GO - COMPUTER- MAC HD- LIBRARY - AUDIO - PLUGINS - COMPONENTS....
  2. Create a new folder on Desktop Called "Plugins" and move all plugins to that folder OUT Of components.
  3. Move ONE plugin BACK to components at a time - test logic - test your issues - test that plugin. IF all good, QUIT logic, Reopen, and load the next one.

YES _ this is time consuming - but so far I have found that NATIVE INSTRUMENTS although it "WORKS" is slowing EVERYTHING down... highly disappointing of course.

Hope this can help someone...



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Jul 8, 2022 4:00 AM in response to mike530db

I am having similar issues. New Mac Studio M1 Max 64gb etc... was working fine when i first got it in early May,


I was able to record several tracks without issues until recently. Now i have latency issues opening projects, and the main issue i have is playback where the head keeps jumping to the start of the recording randomly. No system overload messages just random jump back to start.


Weirdly though - i was recording through superior drummer from my roland td-30 fine until last weekend when the roland was no longer recognised as an external midi device - I had to install the roland driver. This was working fine about a month ago or so.


looking at what's been installed since working and odd behaviour i see the following - i can't help think one of these is to blame for this change in performance etc.



Apple - come on - sort this out - i'm sure like I have, other customers here have purchased the Studio in an attempt to eliminate performance woes.


I can't comment on the performance activity on studio vs logic thread meters as i haven't done that level of investigation.

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Jul 14, 2022 4:43 AM in response to preach88

It's so frustrating. I called Apple and when I spoke to tech support and explained latency problems, glitches, CPU issues, and all the problems in Logic - they replied, and I quote "you should speak with the developer, we can't help you with Logic".....


It's an APPLE OWNED PRODUCT!!!

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Aug 4, 2022 4:15 PM in response to Musician5

This doesn't resolve my issues unfortunately. I've tried every single tip I've found online, nothing seems to resolve it. I've contacted Apple Support and am awaiting yet another reply.


Today - tried again, brand new project, 3 channels, stock plugins - CPU spiking, averaging 25% load. Utterly ridiculous.


It's just not acceptable, I'm fuming with Apple. Logic is an utter shambles and doesn't work properly with the Mac Studio.

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Sep 4, 2022 11:28 AM in response to mike530db

I also heavily invested in a new Mac Studio with 64gb of Ram, 2TB, and Logic Pro is running worse than on my old iMac from 2013. It’s very frustrating. I can’t even run 4 audio tracks on buffer-size 256 before the system overloads.


I really hope it can be fixed, and that it’s just some settings I need to adjust. Cause it takes forever with the delivery of a new Mac Studio


have anyone found a solution yet?


all the best

JJ

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Sep 20, 2022 2:50 AM in response to Ian_Rees

Hi ian, I also have 128GB Max1 Ultra.. EXTREMELY slow... when I "undo" something in Logic I get the beach ball for up to 2minutes - of course "undoing" ideas is a constant... so my work flow is VERY slow... Does anyone know how to contact Logic Support? I wrote to them, but they don't get back to you! They just "take on board" what you say.. This is upsetting for such a large investment and of course, my expectations were high.

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Oct 12, 2022 1:48 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

I know all this Grant. It’s why I bought the m1 max, for that insane speed and performance. It does not deliver on what it promises. All the futuristic architecture means nothing if it’s slow and buggy and virtually unusable. I have absolutely nothing else installed apart from Native apple products. It’s a bag of sh*te. I’ve been googling this for months and there are tons of people having the same problem.

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Sep 8, 2022 8:30 AM in response to supercondr

My bet is the top offenders of cpu % load is

  • mds (spotlight), seen as high as 3-400%, especially on a cold boot
  • photoanalysisd, as high as 100-200%
  • videoencoder/decoder, 50-100
  • window server, 30-50
  • Logic , 15-40

This happens on my system after a initial cold boot in morning. This “clean up” boot up process can take 5-20 mins depending on your system. Variables an be the number of external disks attached, and if your currently connected to the internet or not.


Starting Logic should stop these processes or at least suspend or “nice” the offending processes which are consuming cpu resources.


Especially when recording any takes.

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Nov 7, 2022 3:28 PM in response to ThePianoMan456

Update on this. MacStudio M1 Max, 2TB, 64gb RAM, OSX Monterey - Only 3 channels open in the most recent update of Logic Pro X (10.7.5) with basic unprocessed wav samples, 1 instance of Arturia Pigments (I've tried it with both stock and 3rd party vsts - it's exactly the same). No processing running on that channel. All my plugins are M1 Native - there are zero hybrid or Intel plugins on the machine, I've gone through every single plugin to update or delete. It's an absolute disgrace. I was really hopeful that the new Logic pro update might resolve this, but if anything it's made it even worse.


In the image below you can see a CPU spike and obviously the multiple cores working over time on literally NOTHING. Logic using 50% of CPU on a machine this powerful just makes zero sense whatsoever. It's totally unusable, my record setting is at 1024 because it glitches and pops in every other setting, there's an 18 millisecond delay and so it's not playable in record mode without low latency mode on. Fuming, I literally want to throw this out the window. Can't finish any of my projects, can't start any new ones. I've spent 10 years learning Logic, I have no desire to now go and start from scratch in Ableton or Bitwig or any other DAW.


And now, since the Logic update, it reverts my Advanced Settings to basic every time I restart Logic. I've reported it, AGAIN, to Apple and this time again as a formal complaint. Biggest waste of money ever.





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Jun 15, 2022 4:06 PM in response to mike530db

One thing that Borks initial performance is Spotlight Indexing.


Has your Mac completed it initial indexing?


If you have installed software that wastes computer resources on a regular basis, such as speeder-uppers, Cleaner-uppers/Removers, Optimizers, Virus Scanners, third-party file Sync-ers such as DropBox, OneDrive, or GoogleDrive, or a VPN that you installed yourself, it will do busywork at previously-impossible speeds Unlike older computers this Mac it is not throttled very much by disk speed.

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Jun 16, 2022 5:43 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Hi there, thanks for the reply. Yes indexing is completed, I set it all up a week ago and so it's fully finished now.


I've got nothing of what you mentioned installed, so I'm still confused and underwhelmed. Something doesn't seem right.


I'm going to report it to Apple directly

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Jun 16, 2022 5:56 AM in response to mike530db

Wow to both of your issues

DOA and I also use both Logic and protool and lots of plugins and absolutely have no issues

have you tried to completely remove the software and install it and create new project instead of using your old ones

hope that works

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Jun 21, 2022 9:12 PM in response to mike530db

I have spent nearly a month tweaking settings left and right - I literally just finished 67 takes in logic because of this bs crack pop and other audio glitches and STILL don't have a usable take. I don't know what to do - didn't have this issue with my MacMini I am considering returning this useless unit its a M1 Max Pro with 64GB of RAM and I am facing the same issues - crazy spikes with nothing even going on - just sitting idle in logic. Just so **** frustrating.

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