Mac Studio with Logic Pro X - Latency and glitch issues

Hey I have found something that somewhat works!

1. Go to FINDER - GO - COMPUTER- MAC HD- LIBRARY - AUDIO - PLUGINS - COMPONENTS....
2. Create a new folder on Desktop Called "Plugins" and move all plugins to that folder OUT Of components.
3. Move ONE plugin BACK to components at a time - test logic - test your issues - test that plugin. IF all good, QUIT logic, Reopen, and load the next one.

YES _ this is time consuming - but so far I have found that NATIVE INSTRUMENTS although it "WORKS" is slowing EVERYTHING down... highly disappointing of course.

Hope this can help someone...

The drive in this computer is more than 100 times the typical speed of drives in computers a decade older. If you have installed older ported software that wastes computer resources on a regular basis, such as third-party Virus Scanners, speeder-uppers, Cleaner-uppers/Removers, Optimizers, third-party file Sync-ers such as DropBox, OneDrive, or GoogleDrive, or a VPN that you installed yourself, it will do busywork at previously-impossible speeds.

This older junky software used to run as fast as it could, then would then have suspend to to wait for the disk drive to catch up before  continuing to waste resources. With a really fast drive, that drive-speed restriction is gone.

¿do you have any of that rogues gallery running in the background?

I think I found a solution:

Before you open Logic Pro X:

• Right click on the Logic icon in finder
• Press “Info”
• Click the box “Open with Rosetta”

My Mac Studio performs at 25% of the cpu now.

(I also run with 8 core in audio preferences)

hope this helps

all the best

JJ

One thing that Borks initial performance is Spotlight Indexing.

Has your Mac completed it initial indexing?

If you have installed software that wastes computer resources on a regular basis, such as speeder-uppers, Cleaner-uppers/Removers, Optimizers, Virus Scanners, third-party file Sync-ers such as DropBox, OneDrive, or GoogleDrive, or a VPN that you installed yourself, it will do busywork at previously-impossible speeds Unlike older computers this Mac it is not throttled very much by disk speed.

What audio interface are you using?

Wow to both of your issues

DOA and I also use both Logic and protool and lots of plugins and absolutely have no issues

have you tried to completely remove the software and install it and create new project instead of using your old ones

hope that works

<< dropbox is not using much CPU >> << Kernel_Task and Window_Server and the hogs >>

that's because dropbox DIRECT use for CPU is to set up system calls. Those system calls do busywork at the request of DropBox, and run up the numbers for those other tasks AND for I/O usage, which has no crisp direct measurement method.

I suggest you try un-installing DropBox for a while, and see if your computer becomes more speedy.

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There is no inherent penalty for having files stored on external drives.

There is a major change that Apple made in these computers, that may be influencing how they operate:

The drive in this computer is more than 100 times the typical speed of drives in computers a decade older. If you have installed software that wastes computer resources on a regular basis, such as third-party Virus Scanners, speeder-uppers, Cleaner-uppers/Removers, Optimizers, third-party file Sync-ers such as DropBox, OneDrive, or GoogleDrive, or a VPN that you installed yourself, it will do busywork at previously-impossible speeds — heating up at a ferocious rate. 

This older junky software used to run as fast as it could, then would then have to suspend itself to wait for the disk drive to catch up before continuing to waste resources. With a really fast drive, that drive-speed restriction is gone.

Hi , first of all sorry for my bad English! Just for curiosity where are you living ? (USA ????).....I talked with more than one producer in Italy and Germany since I read this thread and it seems that here in Europe there is no problem like that. Mac Studio M1 Max and Ultra versions with 32/64/128 GB RAM don't have any kind of problem like that with Logic Pro X (10.7.5) and macOS Ventura 13.0.1. It's not first time I hear that there are difference of behavior between Europe and USA and often depended on different "charger behavior" , "electric system" and so on.

If you don't yet, have you the opportunity to test behind "continuity group" or "electric current stabilizer" ?

Have you noticed if when you have the spike of CPU the "WindowServer" process start to be stressed a lot ? (like using more of 25% of CPU) ?

Just 3 days ago I was not able to work in my macBook 2020 with i7 with the same behavior of you (high CPU usage and was impossible to do my job)....noticed that without my monitor 4k attached through Display Port the usage of WindowsServer was really reduced but anyway not solved my problem.

Desperate I updated to macOS Ventura (because no limitation for my drivers and software) => well after the installation I recovered something like 80GB of space on my integrate SSD and it restarted to work perfectly :):):)

Probably in my case I was using something attached to my Logic Pro X that was driving it crazy.

Now the discussion can be opened in different direction but the fact that I Updated and the problem disappeared with the same Logic Pro X project is something really singular no ? Don't know if it has been macOS Ventura to fix it but I can assure you that now the problem is disappeared. I am not saying the this version is the solution because I suppose Mac Studio is provided with last version of OS but the problem could be not directly on your DAW but in some dependency or third party you are using.

Have you tried to re-install the OS from scratch, put Logic Pro X and use only stock plugins & sounds ?

Do you have the same issue ?

Let us know to reassure many "lovers" of this technology.

Thanks in advance for your reply

Once again, what sound card are you using? Are you using Rosetta 2? a cheap sound card can cause all of these problems.

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Simply create a new project in logic and go to the audio settings for the project and change the sample rate. I unfortunately can’t attempt this because of hardware limitations as I’d lose a slew of inputs 🤨 but I am going to try it just as a test to see if I can see something else obvious that is happening.

My bet is the top offenders of cpu % load is

• mds (spotlight), seen as high as 3-400%, especially on a cold boot
• photoanalysisd, as high as 100-200%
• videoencoder/decoder, 50-100
• window server, 30-50
• Logic , 15-40

This happens on my system after a initial cold boot in morning. This “clean up” boot up process can take 5-20 mins depending on your system. Variables an be the number of external disks attached, and if your currently connected to the internet or not.

Starting Logic should stop these processes or at least suspend or “nice” the offending processes which are consuming cpu resources.

Especially when recording any takes.