Mac Studio with Logic Pro X - Latency and glitch issues

Hi there,


I recently received my new Mac Studio (M1 Max, 64gb Ram, 32 Core GPU) and have installed Logic Pro X.


I'm having a bunch of glitching and latency issues, and the CPU meter is far too alive for my liking. Having researched before buying, I was led to believe that the M1Max with 64gb Ram should be more than capable - and probably over powered, but I'm incredibly disappointed with the performance so far.


Running Logic Pro X with 6 audio channels, and a handful of plugins, and the CPU meter is running at just below 25% Processing Threads, and then spikes above that, which is very frustrating. I wouldn't mind if I was running a bunch of processing, but there's virtually nothing and all stock plugins.


I've used Logic Pro for years, and until recently on a 2015 MacBook Pro, which honestly performed better than this Mac Studio.


If anyone has any tips I'd greatly appreciate it. I've adjusted and tried various latency settings - currently I'm trying it at I/O Buffer of 64 samples, and have tried 32, 128, 256, 512, 1024 - which is ridiculous really because its unplayable with the recording delay in the upper settings. A machine this high powered should be handling this with ease.


Please help! I invested heavily in this machine and am hoping it is something I need to change in settings, because right now I'm considering returning it.


As a side note, this is the second MacStudio I've had - the first arrived DOA, completely unusable and also with massive CPU spikes. I returned it and received the replacement last week.


Thank you



Mac Studio, macOS 12.4

Posted on Jun 15, 2022 2:44 PM

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Posted on Sep 24, 2022 4:08 PM

Hey I have found something that somewhat works!

  1. Go to FINDER - GO - COMPUTER- MAC HD- LIBRARY - AUDIO - PLUGINS - COMPONENTS....
  2. Create a new folder on Desktop Called "Plugins" and move all plugins to that folder OUT Of components.
  3. Move ONE plugin BACK to components at a time - test logic - test your issues - test that plugin. IF all good, QUIT logic, Reopen, and load the next one.

YES _ this is time consuming - but so far I have found that NATIVE INSTRUMENTS although it "WORKS" is slowing EVERYTHING down... highly disappointing of course.

Hope this can help someone...



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Jul 7, 2022 12:18 AM in response to rolszewski

i have the same issues in Logic only. I had an intel mac mini with the top tier processor and 32gb ram. Now i have a mac studio 32gb ram and still the same issues. Even the metering has a delay and sometimes Freezes. This is Horrible!! Its gotten to the point I have to use my 3rd party Software Instruments as standalone then route the output out thru another external interface and back in just to record it as AUDIO into Logic just to avoid having latency issues. No updates available for Logic.

Jul 20, 2022 4:37 PM in response to mike530db

My issues might not be as bad as some others. I upgraded to Mac Studio M1 Ultra 128GB RAM from an old 2013 Mac Pro (trashcan). Of course, the performance is insane compared to that, but I expected to be able to throw on a 128 buffer size and compose/produce without hassle. I did expect the CPU to handle better within Logic. Seems like I might have to sit at 256 or higher, which is fine for MIDI, but I'll have to make some adjustments like freezing tracks when recording audio. In this particular session I have open right now I do have a lot of tracks so far, around 50. Again, this is an absolute upgrade over my 2013 Mac Pro, but I expected it to be able to handle what I'm throwing at it better. I highly doubt that this is a hardware issue (unless my Scarlett 6i6 2nd Gen is the source of these problems) so I think we'll have to wait for Apple to make updates along with third-party plugins to continue being updated and streamlined for Apple Silicon chips.

Sep 17, 2022 1:59 PM in response to mike530db

I have nearly the same exact Mac Studio setup, and I’m getting the same audio clipping / cpu overload issues.

I’ll have ONE INSTANCE of Synthogy Ivory II v2.5 (piano VST) running, turn off every other track, and I’m getting CPU overload messages on the Plugin window. Christ, my 2012 Mac (tower) ram Logic audio better than my Mac Studio.

There seems to be background processes like “kernel_task” and “window server” that can take up to 40%+ CPU!!!

Apple needs to address this. I can’t do my work.

Sep 24, 2022 4:29 PM in response to JulesME987654321

one flourish on top of your procedure that can speed it up is called 'half-interval search'.


Take Half the removed extensions, and put them back.


if slow, you have at least one troublemaker in the restored group.

if fast, the troublemakers are in the set-aside group.


divide the trouble group in half and restore half of that half.


keep repeating and dividing groups in half until you converge to single errant extension (or small group).



Jul 8, 2022 4:00 AM in response to mike530db

I am having similar issues. New Mac Studio M1 Max 64gb etc... was working fine when i first got it in early May,


I was able to record several tracks without issues until recently. Now i have latency issues opening projects, and the main issue i have is playback where the head keeps jumping to the start of the recording randomly. No system overload messages just random jump back to start.


Weirdly though - i was recording through superior drummer from my roland td-30 fine until last weekend when the roland was no longer recognised as an external midi device - I had to install the roland driver. This was working fine about a month ago or so.


looking at what's been installed since working and odd behaviour i see the following - i can't help think one of these is to blame for this change in performance etc.



Apple - come on - sort this out - i'm sure like I have, other customers here have purchased the Studio in an attempt to eliminate performance woes.


I can't comment on the performance activity on studio vs logic thread meters as i haven't done that level of investigation.

Sep 20, 2022 1:07 PM in response to Peymon

Peymon,

like you I have no issues with pops cracks or not able to successfully complete three takes of songs.


What I do observe is high cpu utilizations for the first 10-20 mins after a cold boot.


Regardless of any user apps running.

These are typically processes like mds, photodanalysis, and window server.


After 20 mins this cpu running drops down to normal levels.

Sep 28, 2022 1:50 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

The only constant running 3rd party stuff I have would be Dropbox, which only takes up 3-5% CPU, and the Scarlett audio interface program that takes about 3% CPU. That's it besides running Logic X, and Logic X says it takes about 20-30% usually. The biggest CPU eaters I've encountered have been Kernal_Task and Winder_Server. those combined can take up to 80%+ of the CPU.

One possible thing... I'm running and storing all my VST's on 3 Internal SSD's, that I connect to the Thunderbolt ports in the back via SATA to USB-C cables... so they're used and recognized as External SSD's. Could this be causing the issue? The Mac Studio I got only has 2TB internal storage that I run the main programs on.

Oct 2, 2022 4:44 PM in response to mike530db

I too am disappointed with the max studio as my way of mixing (most plugins on busses) leads to the last thread maxing out well before any others. Im not sure if the ultra would even help this as bussing is a series thing and not parallel and hard to compare as I have found nothing online comparing the two with similar logic bussing and the apple store I went to only has the max on display or else I would have at least compared the stock projects between the two.

Oct 12, 2022 4:33 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

No, not exactly.

Drum Kit Designer is a Logic Pro X software instrument, and it's not that big. It causes my Mac Studio M1 Max OS 12.6 to CPU% spike, crackling the audio, and it absolutely shouldn't be doing that.

This is an Apple issue. The sole reason I bought this ridiculously expensive Mac computer was for running Logic, and it straight up doesn't function. My 2012 Mac Tower on Mojave ran Logic better. The Mac Studio severely underperforms in Logic Pro X.

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