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Control Center and Keyboard

Fn-C is the method macOS. provides to open Control Center.


Is there a way to use Magic Keyboard to navigate in and open modules in Control Center?

For example, to toggle Focus on and off.


System Preferences, Dock & Menu Bar has a left side column with a Control Center section where with a click the keyboard can scroll up or down to Focus and other modules. I am finding keyboard is almost useless.

Mac Pro, macOS 12.5

Posted on Aug 30, 2022 2:20 AM

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Sep 9, 2022 9:18 PM in response to PRP_53

P. Phillips saya:

"Attempting what you have mentioned..."


What stands out for all in your captures should be the highlight of CC icon in the Status section of the Menu bar. Highlighted by a mouse click or a finger tap, yes? That HIGHLIGHT is why I started this discussion. I get the same thing here.


Status menus are now only available using a pointing method for a Mac's macOS Menu bar access. Apple has killed Keyboard access to Status menus. Apple Care has demonstrated to me that the Status Block is intermittently extending to the entire Menu bar. Not just the left hand Status region. Sudden and unwanted Mouse-only access turns my workplace and study Mac computers into annoying, pathetically unfriendly, limited junk.


Why is Apple discouraging keyboard use? Is Apple supporting illiteracy in 2022, blame Pandemic again? Apple Care is alarmed. Very! Asked me to send Feedback, (Product Feedback - Apple... https://www.apple.com/feedback) repeatedly.


Aug 30, 2022 2:33 AM in response to Osiyo

Attempting what you have mentioned, the Magic Keyboard using fn c does open the Control Centre.


Using the Keyboard to Toggle between elements of Control Centre does not work but using the Magic Mouse will


In second image below, notice Screen Mirror >> Display Preferences using the Mouse will Open and focus on Display Mirror within System Preferences ( Not Control Centre )




Sep 10, 2022 4:16 AM in response to PRP_53

At the top of the Preferences right column, Mission Control now groups four options in this order:


Mission Control ^↑

Show Notification Center ^→

Turn Do Not Disturb On/Off ^←

Application windows ^↓

DELETE icons for the two options: and/or unselect these two options

Move left a space ^←

Move right a space ^→

It is my experience that the default icons cannot be removed from either Move... options. However, unselecting these 2 options removes macOS warnings.


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Sep 9, 2022 7:38 PM in response to Luis Sequeira1

Luis,


"Where" is AskDifferent Stack Exchange.


Is CC the first standalone member of the Notification family?

Or is it an extension of the Mission Control family?

Definitely not the Dock family.

What is coming to the Desktop generation's right frame - will CC slip over there and gather similar tool-utility packages?


Enhancements like the following are useful and extensible deploys.

But since Apple enables such deploys, and since between them Apple developers must possess tens of thousands of such preference deploys, when will we see a shortcut to explore such deploys in System Preferences?


Call it, Preference Alternatives.

True, Apple is very guarded in this respect.

Being far more closely integrated with historical System culture than CC-like packages can take us, Keyboard preferences would offer Apple Preference Alternatives far more reach and applicability than structures that serve as deploy end points.


Apple Preference Alternatives could populate Desktop right frame with System anchors to enhance Keyboard management of endpoint features like Control Center. CC could just as well become that right frame anchor. Leaving more room for other endpoints. Though, personally ebdpoint rigidity makes me a frigid user. And perhaps pushes my comments and considerations in that direction. Adieu.

Sep 9, 2022 11:02 PM in response to PRP_53

P. Phillips incorrectly states, "Using the Keyboard to Toggle between elements of Control Centre does not work..."

I have just made an interesting find. Some of the Status icons still work. Most importantly, for

System Preferences › Keyboard › Shortcuts › Keyboard › Move focus to the status menus

to work, use

System Preferences › Keyboard › Input Sources

and select

Show input menu in menu bar

Also, System Preferences › TimeMachine › Show Time Machine in menu bar

There are 13 Apple Status menus in the Menu bar. Of these, only two (2) are accessible using the Magic Keyboard: namely,

Keyboard input menu and Time Machine. Only theses two menus can be opened and navigated using keyboard.

Those two working icons must be moved to far left of Status region (as shown).

When right arrow moves keyboard over any of 11 blocked Apple icons the Keyboard is kicked out of menu bar and must re-enter using Magic Keyboard shortcut for

System Preferences › Keyboard › Shortcuts › Keyboard › Move focus to the status menus.


In our MacPro we have tried to customize shortcuts to Magic Keyboard only keys,, but this makes no difference. Apple is regressively blocking Keyboard use on its best quality, most expensive computers.

$10,000 with tax a few years ago.

Aug 30, 2022 2:51 AM in response to PRP_53

Yes, well Control Center or Focus or something around there is Beta. Some kind of programming tool opened on my system while I was exploring Control Center in Dock & Menu Bar preferences. There was also some sort of a caution before that and I was asked to confirm something that I know nothing about. I confirmed because why not?


Before that though... I did a support case concerning the Control Center in Monterey. I was looking for a way to assign F13 to existing Fn-C shortcut. But there's no Control Center in System Preferences, Keyboard, Shortcuts.


And then lots of things appeared next to System Preferences, which is where all that Beta stuff crashed in. It's all pretty spookey... if you ask mr.

Aug 30, 2022 3:36 AM in response to PRP_53

The new preference thing that is on my menu bar is "Open Shortcuts..." No idea what that is good for, but it started trying to do some Hide Desktop. Which I do with a simple Automator shell script app. Shortcuts is way over my head. Its Hide Desktop is monkey talk to me. So is the idea of dumping Automator for Shortcuts.https://osxdaily.com/2022/03/10/remove-shortcuts-menu-bar-mac/


I keep praying every day that Apple will upgrade my POPCAN circuit board to M2 or M3. Much prefer this chassis to TOASTER. Sweet tooth...


v12.5.1 / Mac Pro late 2013 [Oct2018] / 3GHz E5 / 64 GB 1866 / D700 6 GB x2

Aug 30, 2022 3:34 AM in response to Osiyo

You speak of... Beta. If you are using macOS Ventura, then it is normal, it is beta software which, by definition, is expected to have bugs. And if that is the case, you need to follow the proper channels to report these issues. We are not allowed to discuss beta software in this forum.


If you are using Monterey, then please explain exactly where and how you saw the word Beta, so we can understand and may be able to further help.

Sep 6, 2022 3:51 PM in response to PRP_53

Indeed, on topic please.


Focus, aka Control Center is very new. Automator may introduce some sort of keyboard control.

https://talk.automators.fm/t/set-focus-mode-on-macos/13170


However, using System Preferences › Keyboard › Shortcuts › Keyboard › Move focus to status menus


Attach Apple Magic Keyboard to keypress 15 and notice how in Monterey Apple has removed keyboard ability to access status menus.

Sep 6, 2022 4:20 PM in response to Osiyo

Errata, that was F15...


And it gets kinkier. When Apple Care hops aboard to view this issue, F15 Move focus to status menus can access ONLY Screen Share in the status area of the menu bar, but then F13 in the same Preferences set to › F13 Move focus to the menu bar... STOPS WORKING! So the status menus block is rolling into blockage of GAWD only knows what else.


I have been using noted keyboard customization for years. Thankfully, last gasp F14 Move focus to the Dock is still working. Sure hope Apple gets us back on track. Note that we have 2 displays

Sep 7, 2022 1:56 PM in response to dialabrain

Yes! Private Relay is running here, which might effect this issue?


Factually, Apple has been cannibalizing the Status Menu for half a decade. With Monterey 12.5.1 the number of macOS menus in the Status Region of the menu bar that are accessible using the keyboard has withered away to ZERO (0).

Back in the Sierra days the status bar was 100% accessible using just the keyboard.


Apple has nowhere else to put Control Center.. It belongs in the dead zone.


On the bright side, System Preferences is creating backdoors into Control Center goodies. iPhone just dumped the top notch for a bottom pill. Spinning this issue around a little, like a notch... Don't forget to check out rapidly evolving System Preferences. You can disable preferences Keyboard › Mission Control › Move left a space and also Move right a space. That automatically makes Turn Do Not Disturb On/Off a keyboard toggle, here. Do Not Disturb is a big reason for CC Focus access. Other CC content can perhaps be keyboard-managed like that. Cheer up, folks!


Actually, the first four Mission Control › Shortcuts tab options turn all four Magic Keyboard arrows into handy toggles. What else can we toggle in Control Center?

Sep 8, 2022 3:51 PM in response to dialabrain

dialabrain - Aug 30, 2022 3:52 AM in response to Osiyo

FWIW, the only thing listed as beta in macOS Monterey is System Preferences > Apple ID > iCloud > Private Relay (Beta).


Bang-ON observation. In relation to Private Relay (PR, as it is becoming known) and also Mission Control, MC may be an issue for 2 displays. I do not know why. Both warnings from Apple Care on many occassions. No idea why. Nothing on Google.


"macos" "control center" "private relay" "mission control"


CC/MC/PR are always active on both of my displays? Whatever. Unless someone gives us something specific to look for - there is nothing to see. Can you fill in what might be issues, regarding CC and PR and MC?

Sep 9, 2022 2:33 PM in response to dialabrain

dialabrain wrote: No I can't. Sorry.


Well I sure wish I could, too. As documented above and witnessed by Apple Care, during a screen share.


AC advise, by the way. "We don''t know what's going on, intermittently for you.. So, be very careful."


Good advice, I think. I also don''t know why Apple is blocking Magic Keyboard access to menu bar.

Both apps on West side and Apple Utilities on East side are all affected... Kind of intense. West Side Story was handled by Hollywood. Apple is all alone in her East Side / West Side Story. What happens next?


"We don't know... yet." Seriously, quite a thriller.

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