Homekit Automations are broken in iOS 16

Just for clarification: am wondering if you removed/factory reset/added back all your devices (bulbs, plugs, sensors)? Like you, I also tried everything except fir a full nuking of my Home and starting from scratch. And unlike many on this forum, my issue is only with Thread bulbs, plugs, sensor. I factory rest them, add them back but then get a "not responding" message on the Thread devices. Yet I can grab any non-Thread device, add it back, and it works fine. Will wait for iOS 16.2, but if that does not correct the problem I am done with Home. I will take the loss and move back to ISY 994 smarthome. So frustrating cuz my 40+ devices, including 14 new Thread modules, all were working fine (Siri voice commands, App commands, automations and remote commands) until I installed iOS 16. And once you get use to a smarthome it is a challenge to do without it.

Ha, kind of off topic, but I have a combination of Ikea blinds with their hub and Bali Autoview blinds for the windows Ikea wont fit. Love my blind set up. Ikea blinds are cheaper, reliable, and native HomeKit. Bali aren’t HomeKit compatible, but are Z Wave. I use an Aeotec Z Stick in Home Assistant to expose the Bali blinds in HomeKit. Bali blinds are very nice, and cheaper than the HomeKit custom blinds from Lutron.

Wow, and i mean WOW. Don’t blame you for not nuking all. Just curious: what device(s) are you using for controlling your blinds, and are you happy with the operation and dependabilty of these devices? And if you don’t mind, type of blinds (vertical, horizontal, shades, slats, drapes)? Thanks

Ha, I actually built a new house a few years ago (luckily before COVID made everything crazy) and took the opportunity to put as many smart devices in as I could think of. If I ever sell this place I’ll have to write a manual for the new owner!

The Ikea blinds are great, more affordable, and very reliable. Cons are they don’t look all that great and have very few sizes available. They are the room darkening roller blinds as at the time those were all that was available.

The Bali Autoview blinds look much better, lots of customization options, but are 2x -3x more expensive than Ikea blinds per window (and still way less than Lutron at the time). I went with one large roller blind for the front door and the rest cellular. Originally I bought the Bali hub, but it was way overpriced and very limited. Ditched that for a Aeotec Z Stick running in Home Assistant. Has been super reliable for over a year.

I think I have a pretty easy fix!

I encountered the same issue with time based motion sensing automation with the IOS 16, on 4 out of 5 time-based automations. I attempted to make several adjustments to one of the automations to no avail.

After reading the post, I upgraded my phone to 16.1.1 and then removed the 4 non-working automations. I rebuilt the automations and they seem to be working now. I say seem, because I use these automations at night to turn on lights. I changed the time on one of the rebuilt automations to include the daytime for test purposes and it worked fine. I changed it back to night time hours and expect them all to work tonight after specific times tonight.

If it doesn't work, I will log back in to hopefully amend this post.

after deleting everything and rebuilding everything I found a new issue in this version of HomeKit. the rebuild seems to have solved all but one issue. I can build automations based on time and scripting again but only if I do it from IOS device. the home app in macOS will still not allow me to do anything with scripting.

So I had said that “signing out of iCloud on one device fixed it”. It did till I made a change with notifications in HomeKit. So one post was right, if a change is made it stops working. I did delete one of my timed automations today and will see if works tomorrow. It’s bananas and I’m getting over it.

If it doesn't work (after several days) try playing music all night on the homepod that is acting as the primary hub - if that is how your setup works. I too noticed that nighttime automations were failing and so tried this trick and it seems to work. To achieve this I have an automation that starts music playing at a very low volume late in the evening.

Yes, seeing this too. Very disappointing.

Creating automations in the Eve app appears to work 100% though. Scenes needed there.

This is only for the time of day automations that need this workaround as far as I can tell at this time.

So that could be a decent workaround for some perhaps while waiting for the fix.

So I have tried everything posted here with the exception of nuking all and creating a new Home from scratch. Just want to be reminded by someone here who has taken these drastic steps that after said action the new Home setup works flawlessly to include App commands, Hey Siri voice commands, timed automations and remote commands. I really cannot wait for iOS 16.2 so am considering the nuke option for about 40 devices (12 Thread). 🤯😥

My thanks to Glennch, because so far at least, his workaround seems to do the job. Why it should be necessary with software from a tech giant like Apple, is another question entirely but if you have HomeKit automations just not working, give his workaround a try 😜

He guys! Have the same problem like most of you guys. The automations dont work anymore after update iOs16.

How is it possible that there comes such a bad update for Homekit? I mean the Apple TV is my Hub, Homekit is the centre of my house, but none of the automations work good. What to do? Is Apple forcing me to buy another Domotica system? Seems like it.

To solve the problem I will never delete the house. There are tons of automations and smart home hubs etc. Will take my whole day!

Happened to me as well. Automations only working with the Test button. Deleting everything and starting over will be a nightmare.

Nothing to do with betas as I am only on production (!?!) versions.

likely to know if the new update now remembers devices that are in automations after a power failure as currently it drops any knowledge of anything connected to a gateway. Was told by Support that was a “Feature” and as designed. Absolutely nutty “logic”.

Did some more research to try and pin this down for workarounds until it is fixed.

Have not spent a lot of time on it so this is preliminary.

It appears it is the _new edits_ to automations that are currently broken in iOS/TVOS 16.xx

Hence the various workarounds that appear to work somewhat. Mine is that "touching" an automation (rule) in the Eve app also works. But deleting an automation and recreating it appears to work every time in Home app also.

Then additional editing in the Apple Home app tends to (not every time) stop the automation from working again unless you change only the time of day. Not conclusive but is at least some clues.

So there's that with the ususual caveat for variations in various setups. Mine is with an ATV 4K (pre matter).

Whar I did is building everything from scratch.

Once I change an automation things are broken again until I log of from iCloud in Apple TV, reboot, and log in again. So that’s my current workaround to make sure everything works from the moment I adapt an automation.