Homekit Automations are broken in iOS 16

The solution with shortcuts is not necessary and is a bit of red herring. You can use the Apple Homeapp to create the flows. The thing is to not edit the working automations with the Home app.

As discussed earlier.

Update on 2022.11.22, all automations are still broken. I’ve put only scene to all my time-of-day automations but it did not fix. And of course the come and leave home is totally broken. Apple have failed me on this >:( I’ve been years of apple user and apple home is one of my favorite feature and I really hope it can be stable since I’ve spent so much time and money on it. Btw iPhone ios16 apple home UI was the worst design I’ve ever seen on apple - I hope it moves back to IOS15’s before apple engineers come up with better idea. At least let me one-click close all lights

I can say that all my automations are working. It’s not perfect. Some of the “leaving” scenes, during day or night can’t tell each other apart. But, all my timed automations and arrival automations are working. I think the trick is to delete automations, sign out of iCloud on your phone, then re add automations. Then, run them, like test it. That’s what’s worked for me.

Same same same same same!!

I just started with HomeKit before updating to iOS 15 with three Nanoleaf A19 bulbs as morning wakeup lights. There’s no gradual increase automation, so I have been forced to create 15 automations with a 1% increase. Stupid, but it worked.

Then I bought an Apple Watch and was forced to update my iPhone (and so my iPad, which is my home hub) to iOS 16. Everything was fine until I dared to edit the automations. Now the only ones that work are the 5 new steps, not the original 10.

What’s the point in buying into Apple products and services when they clearly do not care to make anything work, let alone reliably??

Annual upgrades and new features, but no QA. Pressure to repurchase essentially the same product every year for “new features” but nothing actually IMPROVES. Things just get more unreliable.

House of cards.

Stack of jenga blocks.

Apple made a convert out of me around Snow Leopard on the Mac, and with the iPhone, but they’ve been performing a slow-motion-car-crash, burning everything to the ground, since 2013. There’s no love for the products anymore at Apple, just Wall Street pathology.

The Apple I loved died and was replaced by a zombie.

I'll skip past the ranting and just say it looks like it is fixed in the upcoming 16.2 update.

It looks lite it here at least.

"The 16,2 update also introduces support for an updated Home app architecture that improves performance for smart home devices."

Endless story of great Apple Emporium.... Followed this to find a solution with the problems, but only thing I now can think is: Screw Apple, move over to fully "Home Assistant Open Source" and go.... Used this now for some days, everything work... Even Matter is supported... So bye bye Apple with your ****** Homekit!!!!

Oh right... hello everyone....👋 like everyone here, I had issues with the automatization, scenes, etc... just when I was about to give up and start a whole new home from scratch, I figured something by accident that made it work again. Not sure if someone already mentioned it on the thread but:

"Just make sure all of your devices, eg. phones, tables, etc., that have access to and control HomeKit in your network are updated to the latest OS 16", that's it. I mean all of the devices.

We have 15 different automatizations, and like most of you, most of our house runs on smart HomeKit devices. All our mobile phones and AppleTV, and laptops have the latest update, but I didn't check my iPad Pro; I mean, why would you... anyways, today, I ran the latest OS version; once done, automatization started running smoothly, just like before. 🤷 I don't have a technical explanation.

But give it a try, and I hope it helps 🤙

Guys, you do NOT have to rebuild HomeKit from scratch. Has anyone read what I posted? If you delete automaton, sign out of iCloud from iPhone, re create automations, it should work. Mine definitely has for a few weeks now.

I don't use betas. Actually, we are ALL using betas, because that's the quality of the "final" release throughout the industry anymore... But I wont use formalized betas, which are likely even worse.

That said, when I updated to 16.1.1 yesterday, I found that my automations MIGHT be working this morning (slept through the first few automations of my light, but then woke up to find the light on, as it should be, at the brightness I had assigned in the automations that weren't previously working).

I'm not offering this as a solution, just to note that it happened. For all I know, it's the reboot, or an iCloud re-login from the update installation, or whatever, not actual bug fixes. My iPad tends to stop synching with iCloud after a while of not being regularly used or rebooted, and that's a long-standing issue.

one thing I would advise is to call apple. This discussion chain isn’t that helpful. I was on the phone for 20 minutes with apple and all of my automations are working properly. There are minor changes to settings and privacy that need to be changed. Yes, all of my automations are working.

Apple support is generally friendly, but I really don't feel like repeating all the same typical "solutions" they make users step through before ever talking to their developers. I've called them several times for various issues, and I've ended up showing them bugs they haven't logged and likely wont fix, and it just feels like I'm doing free labor for Apple. No thanks.

If the developers already know about this, as some have indicated, then there's no point in me going through all the general support nonsense just to have them escalate to developers.

Well, do you want to get it fixed or just complain about it? That’s what these community platforms are, not very helpful apple doesn’t read the posts and the information on here is not helpful, just saying.

Sleep would fit with my observations - my automations seem to run ok during the day but not at night (when I’m trying to turn my Hive heating off and on). My hubs are a HomePod and a HomePod mini - I’m going to try keeping one of them active overnight to see if that fixes the problem, as well as all the app deletion/recreation ideas others have suggested. Also waiting for 16.2 (not beta)….

Homekit automations lose devices after power outage. Happens every time the power fails. Have to add all the devices back into the automations. Was told by support the this is a "feature". Any ideas? I use a gateway for Z-Wave devices. Does HomeKit just dump all devices managed via a gateway?

1 look at the settings

2 reset the connected hub - or unplug it for 10 sec

3 look at the settings again

4 if the connected hub is now different then it might just work, it does for me

5 upgrade or reset the original device if it’s a homepod