Homekit Automations are broken in iOS 16

It appears iOS 16 has broken HomeKIt, specifically Thread devices. I can no longer operate my Eve or NanoLeaf Thread devices and they were all working fine prior to iOS 16 install. In fact, I pulled from storage some old non-thread Eve plugs and motions and they install and work fine. So this is a Thread issue and iOS 16. Apple pls fix!

It appears iOS 16 has broken HomeKIt, specifically Thread devices. I can no longer operate my Eve or NanoLeaf Thread devices and they were all working fine prior to iOS 16 install. In fact, I pulled from storage some old non-thread Eve plugs and motions and they install and work fine. So this is a Thread issue and iOS 16. Apple pls fix!

I have the same issue with automations not working in HOME APP and I never installed any beta versions of IOS.

I have Phillips, Aquara and other brand accessories but that does not influence the issue.

Time trigger and motion trigger automations never work but location trigger and some other seems to work although sometimes with a delay.

Im having to do the same thing....

in any case I don't think reseting everything is a valid solution... if you have a lot of accessories that basically resets your whole house. There is clearly a bug related to HomeKit in ios16 (perhaps in preparation to matter....)

Same here, nothing to do with any Beta install (which I’ve not installed) but rather with IOS 16 itself or Home app update :

• Automations were working fine since multiple years (garden sprinklers, pool, lights, shutter)
• Automations still working fine if triggered manually
• deactivation/reactivation of automations doesn’t solve anything

No way to save and restore accessories and/or automation in Home app…

If I had the fact that my IPhone 13 Pro have had a whole day not being able anymore to make a simple phone call after IOS16 update, that my Apple TV is now requesting me all the time the password of a known family member, that my IPad Pro doesn’t see at all the IOS16 update, that FaceTime call is not possible anymore (old IOS versions devices have to call me so that it works)…

that’s by far the worst IOS update Apple ever made… For a “user experience” driven company, it kind of a shame. Did they validate this OS update ?

Early adopter, I was already bothered by the fact that apple Home appli doesn’t handle any energy metering oriented device… I may now open my Apple ecosystem and leave Apple Home for more reliable and advanced third party Apps…

Hi all,

Since we have iOS 16.0.2 installed we have the following problem:

We have 4 automation's, 2 for leaving of 2 persons and 2 for arriving for 2 persons. Before the iOS update it worked perfect. Now when we are at home suddenly all lights went off because it seems that the iPhones were signed as "leaving" the home. But we still inside the house.

We try to check everything to solve this, change radius of the house inside Homekit, but that isn't possible.

Also tried to remove the automations and given a point in the street with a bigger radius. But then its not working because Homekit will turn everyone to leave when 1 of the 2 persons is leaving. (In every automation we select just 1 person. So 2 for person 1 Arrive, Leaving and 2 again for other person for Arrive, Leaving)

Only sollution will be to revert back to iOS 15.x but that is not a solution. How can we solve this?

Yes I think you are correct. It’s not central to what they do but rather an idea they had once and haven’t put much into it. The fact the ecosystem is so small and that they are so controlling of the device manufacturers (rather than using existing standards) is probably indicative of where it will go. I liked the idea but my experience with it has been less than ideal and it has been extremely slow to develop. I think my way forward is a better ecosystem that do this stuff as their main business with perhaps a bridge to iOS.

For me it was so easy to use homekit. Because its part of iOS. I can create automations for me and my friend.

To do it different I always have to ask to install a app, to update something etc....

Im using Home Assistant. So in homekit I created automations to turn on or off a switch. This switch is used in Home Assistant for lot of automations in the house.

But since iOS 16. Sometimes iOS thinks we left the house because the geofence is moved little bit and then out of range, even we still connected visa WiFi.... This was never happen on iOS 15.x

You can imagine this is horrible, because if we left home (we are still inside the house) then all lights, tv, etc went off. Because HomeKit thinks we left. But within 1 or 2 minutes the geofence point is good again even we still connected on WiFi then lights turn on again. This also happen at night.... When we sleep...

Also can confirm most timed automations have failed since iOS 16 and tvOS update rolled out. I have way too many automations and devices to consider setting up everything again (like others said).

It is sounding more like a hub issue than anything on the device. I'm going to try resetting all my Apple 4Ks and see if that helps anything.

After a couple of weeks since "updating" to OS16 on my devices my Automations have now stopped working. All Scenes vanished from the Home app (iPad) and Automations showed "no accessories or scenes". Oddly I can created new scenes but cannot use the same name as the missing ones.

Evidently my Homekit settings have become corrupted. One possible reason is that I unplugged my Original Homepods due to an approaching thunderstorm (they are irreplaceable!). This meant that the Apple TV 4K took over as the primary Hub. Maybe during this changeover the Homekit Settings were messed up?

I just tested this hypothesis by unplugging the Homepod that was the primary Hub. As expected the Apple TV took over as the primary Hub. So far the Home app is displaying the Scenes that I created before unplugging the Homepod but an Automation did not work.

So I might be faced with deleting my Home entirely and creating a new one - reinstalling accessories and recreating automations and scenes - Grrr!

An odd thing happened this morning which suggests that the Homekit data is getting corrupted. Several scenes vanished from the Home app when I first had problems. I created new ones but Home wouldn't let me use the same name. This morning the automation that uses one of the scenes didn't work (again). When I looked at the Home app on my Watch it displayed the old scene names. I tapped on the one to activate the outlets and it worked. I scrolled down to look at accessories and when I scrolled back to the scenes the active one had changed to the new scene name.

Anyway, in view of the advice in a previous post about Apple working on the issue (!) I think I will wait to see if a fix comes out. I expect that we will all need to delete Home and set up everything again once a fix is available.

I might put those outlets on clockwork timers until then. Grrr!

An hour later and a couple of automations have started working. The only change I can think of is that the Original Homepod that is the primary hub is now in use (awake). Overnight it likely goes to sleep - I wonder if OS16 changed the way the Homepod (or Apple TV) controls Homekit when asleep?

• five speakers  1 biggie, 4 mini’s and a few thread switches
• 8 eve wall switches
• 10 Philips lights
• 2 Wemo and (iDevice plug-ins i removed)
• eve door sensor
• 2 apple TVs
• ecobee themostat
• 2 eve motion sensors
• 2 hue motion sensors (like these better)
• 2 eve temp sensors
• eero pro and two extenders (installed about a year ago and  greatly increased stability)

ipad on ios5.7

phone on ios16.0.3

make sure after factory reset you install any  mini upgrades also.

the only thing else i noticed is that scenes need to be tested first if they are part of an automation (easiest to do this with your phone on ios16). i had a few logic conflicts with one scene doing the opposite of the other.

Informative and interesting! Are you using your two ATVs as Hubs or just some of your HomePods? I see you have two different iOS (iPad & iPhone). Do you notices any operational difference when you run the Home App on either device? I have tried everything with no positive outcome so am just waiting for Apple to put out a fix. I have removed my Thread devices (Eve/Wemo/NanoLeaf) that were continuing to fail and replaced them with non-Thread devices I had put away in storage. So my Home is working great as long as I do not add back any Thread devices.

Interesting, so between your ATVs and HPs which one is your "connected hub" and which ones are in standby mode? Have you traveled outside and sent some remotes commands back from your Home App? I did get my Thread devices back working (one HP mini only as the connected hub and no standbys because I disabled three ATV 4Ks and two HP minis for t/s purposes, but after traveling 250 miles and sending a few remote commands, all my Thread devices were knocked off but all non/Thread devices remain working (never had issues with my non-Thread devices after 16.x.x uogrades.