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Homekit Automations are broken in iOS 16

Since iOS 16 HomeKit automations aren't triggered reliably. Simple timed automations like "Open Shutters at 9am" are triggered randomly. All my Hubs, Homepods, iPhones, etc are up-to-date, restarted, reseted all the devices, recreated all the automations, but still not reliable.

My only solution at the moment is to schedule the automations with the accessories' own hub. (eg. IKEA light automations are set in IKEA's own app, and my Bosch smart home shutters are scheduled within Bosch's app) It works, but would be better to see everything within Apple's Home.

Posted on Sep 16, 2022 1:47 AM

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Glennch

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Posted on Sep 21, 2022 12:52 PM

I too suffered from my automations no longer working after upgrading my AppleTV's (4K and HD) to TV OS 16. After about 5 days of troubleshooting I cannot say what specifically is wrong but I can provide what seems to be a consistent way to create HomeKit automations that consistently work on IOS 16 / TV OS 16.

First, the iphone / ipad you run this procedure on must be running IOS 16 for this to work.
Delete the automation in question (either via the Home app or the Shortcuts app)
Create the automation in the latest version of the shortcut app (Do NOT use the Home App).
In the shortcut application when you create your automation, do not select your scene or accessory in the first menu, instead scroll down to the bottom and select "Convert to shortcut"
In the shortcut menu select your scene or accessory as you normally would.
Before hitting "Done" in the Shortcut menu, select the small arrow at the very bottom right of the screen to test your script. Assuming it works as desired you can select "Done" in the Shortcut menu.
Now don't panic, it takes approximately 3-5 seconds to copy the new automation to your home hub before it will be listed in the Automations screen.

This has worked consistently for me for both simple automations such as turning on a light at a certain time as well as complex automations based on location that SSH into a remote server.

Good Luck

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Oct 25, 2022 5:47 PM in response to wArch

Maybe check for firmware updates for the Insteon devices? (Or check in a few weeks if other users are having the same experience)

S_S_M

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Nov 9, 2022 8:54 PM in response to MEGATOMI

For whatever reason, my Automations start working 3-4 days after I’ve v=created or made change to them. I’ve no idea why, but it happens consistently to everything I’ve done.

Kazemi88

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Dec 14, 2022 11:05 PM in response to Robin Phillips1

Just noticed in Home app that my Apple TVs automatically re added as home hubs. Interesting since I disabled them and only used HomePods as home hubs

ullal

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Dec 23, 2022 6:49 AM in response to MEGATOMI

I tried deleting my home and recreating it, and it worked for a few hours before it stopped working again.

RobGTX

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Dec 28, 2022 10:54 AM in response to Kazemi88

I just checked my AppleTV, was still running 16.1...upgrading now.

Sep 25, 2022 11:45 AM in response to MEGATOMI

Hi everyone,

exactly the same issue here... especially the automations with triggers like "if I'm home" just don't work any more.

I don't consider resetting my whole home a fix... it would take me a day to re-configure everything. There must be a better way to solve this. I'll wait for the big HomeKit upgrade coming with 16.1.... let's see if that fixes this bad bug.

Greets

Chris

Sep 26, 2022 9:59 AM in response to MEGATOMI

I am also facing similars issues : since the upgrade of my iPhone and my Apple TV, almost all my automations are no more triggering. It is very strange, I have an automation that is triggered when the target state of my security system is updated to “Night” and this automation is still working well. I have also an automation that is triggered when the target state of my security system is set to “Home” and this automation is no more working. I don’t understand why the first one is still working and why the second one is completely broken.

Sep 27, 2022 8:12 AM in response to mumbles2701

So I have several apps from other providers. Wemo, myQ, Philips, smart things, Lutron, ok yo and meross. I personally did not delete those apps, nor did I open them. I strictly went through the HomeKit side, considering this started with 16

Sep 29, 2022 10:14 AM in response to viewDidNotRetire

i dont understand what you mean by 'Shortcut App'?

My lights are all over the place. Some work, some work patially, some even dont show lights on in the app, others dont work. I set new automations as a test and they work but i reset/readd my existing automations and they dont work.

i really dont want to start from scratch

arndt145

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12 points

Oct 1, 2022 8:04 AM in response to MEGATOMI

I just bought the homepad mini and then iOS 16 came out. Updated homepad and my phone. I bought the homepad mini to control my Eve gear when I'm not at home and to create some fancy automations. Now they are not working (the remote access does work). Did you guys did not test the homekit automation update before releasing it? The "solution" to reset the home outlined by one user here is not a solution but just a pain. Until Apple has fixed this problem I cannot recommend homekit for home automation purposes.

Oct 2, 2022 8:08 AM in response to MEGATOMI

Anyway, you were a happy person if the automations ever worked as they should... For my HomeKit it is impossible to turn on the lights at the designed time of day with designed light color and intensity... If I want my automation I need to turn it on manually and iOS 16 has nothing to do with that.

Oct 5, 2022 2:41 AM in response to Diezc

Last night, my Home app ground to a halt. I could nto do anything. i used my phoen on iOS16 and my iPad which is still on iOS15, and niether would do anything. i reset app, turnewd off device, everything .Zero response on either.

Anyone witness this?

majapp

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31 points

Oct 5, 2022 8:53 AM in response to carrlos_me

No. I do not want to delete my Home App and then start from scratch adding back 40+ devices. as I noted, only my thread devices have stopped working and my 3 HP mini (thread) have disappeared from home App. I reset Eve and Nanoleaf thread devices but cannot add them back. I hope Apple finds a fix cuz my HK was all working fine until I installed iOS 16. If I reset everything and delete Home App and then start from scratch (a painful process) I am not sure things will work ok.

majapp

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Oct 6, 2022 8:36 AM in response to carrlos_me

Wow, so odd. Only 11 (all Thread) of 41 are causing me problems since installing iOS 16. It doesn't seem like Apple is addressing the issue. I may try what you did by deleting HP App. Do I need to delete HP App from all iPhone/iPad/MacBook?

Oct 6, 2022 8:47 AM in response to majapp

I didn't have the Home app installed on my iPad but I do have it installed on this MaBook Pro M1 so I only deleted it from my iPhone. But now that you mention it, I think I will delete it from this laptop too just for sh***s and giggles.

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