Homekit Automations are broken in iOS 16

With version 16, I have found that if I edit anything at all on my existing time of day automations, they will fail to run afterwards. The only way to resolve it to delete the automation and add it back.

Yes, jbrooksga, just like me and a few other ppl here. Let us know if appletv is your „connected“ home hub when that happens. If you have a homepod, see if your problems are solved by either unplugging the appletv or on older appletv by disabling it as a have me hub in the settings under „AirPlay and HomeKit“. Good luck.

In my case the culprit is a 2017 TV 4K. If yours are different editions of Apple TV you could try to deactivate by model number and see if that improves anything. But essentially, whatever you do, observe if your automations work flawlessly when the HomePod mini is the “connected” hub versus when (any of) the Apple tv is a connected hub. I would try it. My problems all went away by deactivating atv.

For some unknown reason the first day on 16.2 my automations where broken. After several reboots of ALL devices ( really everything so not only my iPhones, iPads and Apple TV) everything started working as it should. I can adapt existing automations, create new ones, rename them,…. and it still keeps working as it should. I have only 1 AppleTv 4K working as a hub.

So would it really be fixed now? Still anxious and hoping that all remains like this now.

21 sensors, 8 bridges, 3 camera’s and tons of devices connected over Homebridge as well.

Fingers crossed!!!

With my AppleTV 4K (original version, which I’m guessing is 2017) as my homehub my automations continue to work on 16.2.

I did have some really weird behaviour about 4 months ago that led to me doing a full wipe and reinstall of everything on it though. I wonder if that might have cleared whatever latent glitch is causing you problems now?

It’s a bit of a pain to do, but as little actual data is stored on them, once it’s done it’s not too bad other than signing back into a few services.

At least here, the issue is completely solved by updating to latest Dec 13 versions of iOS, TVOS and Mac OS.

Read the documentation before you upgrade your home from the admin account. Especially users with multiple homes and older devices in use. But basically the upgrade moves all actions to the hub and it looks like a sensible and useful upgrade.

YMMV as always.

Does anyone know if the new home architecture is compatible with the most recent version of macOS Monterey? Apple obtusely says all devices need to be updated to the "most recent version" of the OS. For older Macs that can't be upgraded to Ventura, does this include the "most recent version" of macOS that can be installed on that Mac?

They mean Ventura.

You can find out by stating the upgrade process. It then tells you which of your devices aren’t running supported OS.

Rather unhelpfully, it only tells you about your own devices, not other devices of other users of the home. So you might do the upgrade thinking it is all fine and then later find out that other members of your household have been shut out.

I saw that, but I found it confusing because it showed my wife's iPhone as unsupported when I thought it should already be running 16.2. Turned out it wasn't because for some reason it hadn't auto-updated. So it should tell you about unsupported shared home devices. At least it did for me.

It also seems the Home app won't work at all on unsupported devices after the upgrade. But that isn't totally clear either.

Seems Apple has disabled the home upgrade due to problems people have had.

https://www.macrumors.com/2022/12/21/apple-pulls-new-home-architecture/

Thats not the cause of the automations problems being discussed here, but thought I’d share as I know a few people have ‘upgraded’ and then still had problems.

I too thought I had it fixed but no. I’ve had enough. This has been going on too long. I’ve sold my 4 beloved HomePods although I loved the sound quality. But that’s all you could rely on them to do. Apple has just lost one customer to the Alexa stable.

i didn’t want to say 100% bc it’s tech. What I can say, the new interface, it’s not jumping homehubs at all. I have 4 and it remains connected to just one. It’s much more stable now. 16.2 only been out a week or so. So far has been significantly better than iOS 16

I discovered a really strange behaviour when trying to debug why my home automations were not firing. Instead of adding home automations, I created personal shortcuts on my dedicated iPad for Apple Home that accomplishes the very same as my home automations. So far, they have NEVER failed to run and I have had about 6 weeks of no issues whereby with the home automations it would be a daily, maybe even every other day where my home automations will not fire (mostly timed automations, i.e. run every day, etc). There is a blurred line between Shortcuts and home automations. Definitely a very huge improvement and take this observation for what its worth. Good luck!

just in case, I went through and pushed every Apple product I have to the current OS. Although they are all on auto-update, it sometimes takes several days for an update to actually occur. After doing this, rebooting each device and restarting the Home app, my automations are working again. All is my automations use Scenes rather than individual accessories. A couple of automations which use shortcuts are still struggling to work, but that is due to a different issue related to device names and a fix is in the works.

I did not think it could get worse but for no known reason latest homekit, latest iOS and TVOS and it stopped working with my Z-Wave bridge.

To add insult to injury a few weeks ago Siri stopped recognizing simple homekit commands such as "Open Garage Door Number One".

Now today, it now can't find wifi connected deices. Every device I have is line powered with strong wifi.

Apple, what happened with doing a few things, and doing these really well?!?