Homekit Automations are broken in iOS 16

Well, do you want to get it fixed or just complain about it? That’s what these community platforms are, not very helpful apple doesn’t read the posts and the information on here is not helpful, just saying.

Homekit automations lose devices after power outage. Happens every time the power fails. Have to add all the devices back into the automations. Was told by support the this is a "feature". Any ideas? I use a gateway for Z-Wave devices. Does HomeKit just dump all devices managed via a gateway?

I don’t think it has to do with beta. I didn’t do the beta and it’s not working for me. I think Apple is just getting sloppy.

Thanks for the tip on recreating the

entire home. That is a pain, but makes sense as to why it would fix things. I’m thinking when they upgraded the Home app, they didn’t program the transition from the old version properly.

My hub is an Apple TV HD. I did try turning off and on the “make Apple TV a hub” option but will try it again.

Just noticed a firmware update for my Meross smart plugs that mentioned something about responsiveness.

What a **** show. Will be tossing all my smart plugs and going forward with matter, thank god I’m not too invested in regular HomeKit hw.

So all was well for a few days, but just as before, all my thread devices -- only thread -- nanoleaf, eve, wemo -- have all stopped working: "no response." I have been using only one HP mini. So frustrating since iOS 16 caused all of this. Am losing confidence in Apple tech.

Robin Phillips1 wrote:

I don’t know if discussing beta software is allowed in the forums here, but I’ve had a quick skim of the tos and couldn’t see a specific mention of it so 🤷.

It isn't really allowed. Probably covered by prohibition on Speculation or rumors about unannounced products, but should also be covered by the beta NDA.

tt2

deleting all your automations and ‘nuking’ everything is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. People have found solutions they’re listed up above.. instead of saying you’re so frustrated Read what other people have done to fix us. hint: it’s usually a device that doesn’t have the most recent update, or updated itself incorrectly.

Have found that all these solutions are only temporary.  It’s like if your car doesn’t start, remove the battery, spark plugs and tires and reinstall and see if that fixes the problem.   I feel like we’re the beta testers.  Come on Apple, get it together!

Exactly, and what's more, your phone does not control your HomeKit devices, your hub (AppleTV or HomePod) does. So pretty clearly deleting the Home app on your phone isn't doing anything that couldn't be accomplished with a whole lot less fuss and bother.

if your fix is to disable and re enable the automation or delete the automation and recreate it then your automations are simplistic. probably something like if motion turn on light. try building some more complex automations and you will experience the same issues.

Let’s ease up. Obviously this is an impactful situation for a lot of people and a long time. To disable a HomePod and if people have multiple ones, that’s a lot of work. Then to delete the app itself, reboot phone, and re add HomeKit app, a lot can go wrong. If someone has 54 bulbs, 2 door sensors, 2 light strips, 2 smart locks, smart camera, door bell cam, 5 smart outlets, I would never delete the app in fear I would lose everything. That’s a test by fire method.

As I have repeatedly said, the HomeKit app is reinstalled from the Cloud in the App Store and retains all of your settings, devices, and automations. Delete the app after removing the hub, reboot your phone, and reinstall it.

My method worked for me, for my environment, for now. Obviously a lot of work. I have been at it with Apple's lack of software quality a long time. Testing why things aren't working, how to workaround, fix or just repost the issue with support.

Contacting support for these things out if

the gate is just painful for all involved.

What is there to lose? Scenes I need to manage my house, security, HVAC/radiant heat systems? It was already broken.

And I did all of the HomePods because over they get flakey, unresponsive and have to be reset anyway.

I am looking forward to common standards in devices that allow us to break from an eco system without loosing a limb. In the meantime I'm using the apps that don't require HomeKit scenes, automations, or

device shortcuts and I've turned off auto updates where I can.

happy holidays

Sorry, this is simply false.

The homehubs perform a very different role to other devices (eg iOS, macOS, non homehub iPadOS devices).

Try running HomeKit, especially automations without a homehub and get back to us.

Set up your HomePod, HomePod mini, Apple TV, or iPad as a home hub - Apple Support

Thank you. Someone gets it.

My final comment on this is: I (and others) have suggested a simple temporary fix that will probably solve the problem for a lot of people. It did for me. It will be entirely up to whoever is looking for help and finds this discussion to decide whether they believe it's worth trying that solution first, or whether they'd prefer to try a far more time consuming method first. Some will see the logic and sense in at least trying the easy solution and escalating only if it doesn't work for them. Others won't. Not much else left to say.