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Homekit Automations are broken in iOS 16

Since iOS 16 HomeKit automations aren't triggered reliably. Simple timed automations like "Open Shutters at 9am" are triggered randomly. All my Hubs, Homepods, iPhones, etc are up-to-date, restarted, reseted all the devices, recreated all the automations, but still not reliable.

My only solution at the moment is to schedule the automations with the accessories' own hub. (eg. IKEA light automations are set in IKEA's own app, and my Bosch smart home shutters are scheduled within Bosch's app) It works, but would be better to see everything within Apple's Home.

Posted on Sep 16, 2022 1:47 AM

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Glennch

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Posted on Sep 21, 2022 12:52 PM

I too suffered from my automations no longer working after upgrading my AppleTV's (4K and HD) to TV OS 16. After about 5 days of troubleshooting I cannot say what specifically is wrong but I can provide what seems to be a consistent way to create HomeKit automations that consistently work on IOS 16 / TV OS 16.

First, the iphone / ipad you run this procedure on must be running IOS 16 for this to work.
Delete the automation in question (either via the Home app or the Shortcuts app)
Create the automation in the latest version of the shortcut app (Do NOT use the Home App).
In the shortcut application when you create your automation, do not select your scene or accessory in the first menu, instead scroll down to the bottom and select "Convert to shortcut"
In the shortcut menu select your scene or accessory as you normally would.
Before hitting "Done" in the Shortcut menu, select the small arrow at the very bottom right of the screen to test your script. Assuming it works as desired you can select "Done" in the Shortcut menu.
Now don't panic, it takes approximately 3-5 seconds to copy the new automation to your home hub before it will be listed in the Automations screen.

This has worked consistently for me for both simple automations such as turning on a light at a certain time as well as complex automations based on location that SSH into a remote server.

Good Luck

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Sep 29, 2022 5:55 PM in response to MEGATOMI

after TVOS 16.0, most of my time trigger automation is not working, signed in and out of icloud for ATV, no help, delete and recreating sometimes works sometime doesn't

why are these not tested before role out?? i have like 50 accessories, most not working now, VERY ANNOYING, moving to alexa soon

Sep 29, 2022 11:17 PM in response to MEGATOMI

I'm having the same issues. The only automation that is working reliably is the one that turns on two lights at sunset or sunrise, if somebody is at home. All the others, e.g. coming home light, adjust temperature of radiators depending on the room temperature don't work. All my devices (4 HomePod mini, Apple TV 4K, iPhone 12 Pro, iPad Air 5, my older son's iPhone 12) are running the most recent OS version except the iPhone 7 of my younger son. I don't won't to remove all my 42 accessories and setup everything from scratch, so I hope that Apple fixes this issue with iOS16.1/macOS Ventura.

Sep 30, 2022 7:01 AM in response to mumbles2701

Never mind Shortcut App! It is on the iPhone and I did use it to do the automation, and it appeared to have fixed my issues. But, it was back to square of one after a while and like everybody else, the automation is totally shot and is all over the place. I had to turn off notifications to avoid frequent false alarms!

Sep 30, 2022 8:48 AM in response to MEGATOMI

Hi everyone.

I don’t know how but my automations based on iPhone location (people arriving and leaving home) are working again.

I did so much investigation with an Apple advisor with HomePod Mini logs, resetting network settings, and updating to iOS 16.0.2 but everything is working like before.

I hope that everyone here are going to solve their issues.

Good luck.

Oct 9, 2022 7:46 AM in response to MEGATOMI

Automations WERE working great over the summer and now everything just came to a screeching halt. Some work, some don’t, some are unreliable. But mostly, they just don’t. Pretty sad I’m moving to a competitor for my automations when Apple is supposed to “just work”.

Dec 14, 2022 11:42 PM in response to Thomas Easterday

Thomas Easterday, thanks for confirming you also see the appletv as the center of the automation madness. Now the question is how to proceed. There is not a lot to configure on appletv. What I have noticed in my case, is that every 2 weeks or so it has been asking me to login using an iPhone or iPad to configure my appleid. This has gotten very irritating. I’ve done that like 4 times or so in the past 3 months. I wonder if the issues with home are related to trouble induced by those mysterious recurring remote appleid updates? Have you been plagued by them? Thing is you don’t see you need to do that until you enter the settings app and notice a notification icon.

Sep 24, 2022 2:51 AM in response to MEGATOMI

Did you try to delete Home App and reinstall it ? It seems that’s working

Sep 24, 2022 2:53 AM in response to Harold_Prvst

I haven't tried it. Is it safe? Am I going to keep my devices, hubs, automations, rooms etc.?

Sep 24, 2022 3:28 AM in response to piotr0777

Well I’m not sure…

i forget to tell something. Apple Advisor should call me back on Wednesday to give me a way to fix this mess. I will post here for sure

Sep 27, 2022 12:29 AM in response to Joerocket9999

Well we know what we have to do

Sep 27, 2022 6:57 AM in response to Joerocket9999

When I try to delete the Home app it says: "First delete all HomePods in your home". Have you also encountered this message?

turingtest2

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Sep 27, 2022 7:16 AM in response to piotr0777

Are you able to offload the app rather than delete it?

tt2

Sep 27, 2022 7:36 AM in response to Harold_Prvst

deleted an automation and readded. Cant believe i might need to reset up EVERYTHING?

turingtest2

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Sep 27, 2022 7:38 AM in response to mumbles2701

Or just wait for iPadOS 16, which must be out any day now?

tt2

Sep 27, 2022 7:38 AM in response to Stu Baker1

what does Home+ do that Home doesnt for its £12.99?

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