Why is my iPhone 14 Pro causing headache, nausea and eye strain? PWM Complaint...

Hello,


I purchased an iPhone 14 Pro recently. Ever since using it, I have fallen ill with nausea, headaches and eye strain. Even after using for sure durations (5-10 minutes).


Based on my research, this is due to the PWM (Pulse Wave Modulation) flickering which happens in iPhones (and other phones) with AMOLED screens which use PWM to dim the screen.


I currently use an iPhone 11 (standard) - which has an LCD screen with none of these issues.


Is Apple looking into any ways to fix this problem? Or at very least, continue to release phones with LCD screens for those of use with this issue? The only other phone option with LCD and 5G is the iPhone SE 2022...which is a smaller screen phone.


Thank you.




Posted on Oct 1, 2022 1:32 AM

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Posted on Sep 19, 2023 6:59 AM

I've had this issue for a while now. (about 5 years now) Took me a while to figure it out, and it's not unique to apple; it's any screen utilizing PWM for brightness control.


As an Apple user, Im sticking with an older MacBook Pro, and for phone, an iPhone 8 (still), and will most likely get an SE by the end of the year.


Most people I know are fine with it. My kids, for example, have no issues. Even friends that wear glasses for reading...not an issue.


For those that do get headaches though, there is one thing we have in common; a lazy eye. I have one eye, not that you can tell by looking at me, that is classified as "lazy". This impacts my depth perception, and typically forces my good eye to do all the work. (the brain is good at adjusting). Seeing those hidden images in a stereogram photo for example? Impossible for me. Anyway, that's what I get for not wearing the eye patch as a kid.


That said, please don't take this as medical advice. It's simply my own personal observation, and experience. All I know is, PWM controlled displays do not play well with my eyes.

Symptoms:


Eye strain/pressure (like I'm staying cross eyed too long)

Nausea/dizzy

Headaches/migraines

blurred vision


Recovery: usually takes a day


Remediation:


I just turn up the brightness. Doesn't work all the time though. iPhone 12 for example, doesn't help, and the symptoms described above tend to come on quickly (few minutes).




















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Oct 1, 2022 6:24 PM in response to Wstudiosite

I've not seen anywhere that this affects millions of people in the world. Can you provide a link?


By far most people who use OLED screens do not have this issue otherwise this would be on the news everyday and people would be returning their LG and Sony TVs by the hundreds.


Companies are moving towards miniLED on smaller screens, when one comes out I would suggest you go an try one and see if the PWM persists.

Oct 1, 2022 6:50 PM in response to Wstudiosite

How many of those 10% of sufferers are actually buying smartphones? How many of them ARE aware of their limitations in screen use? And which Samsung devices have addressed it through software and how did they do so?


I'm sure Apple is aware of this issue and will work to do what they can within limitations. But there have been relatively few posts here about this problem so I'm not sure it is as prevalent as you think it is.


Oct 13, 2022 1:18 PM in response to DianaBeck

Sorry, but try to find one post in here where someone is saying PWM does not exist. Wstudiosite is trying to say EMF sensitivity exists which is an entirely different thing and served only to clutter up an otherwise good thread. You should criticize them for trying to hijack the thread.


Again, Apple does not make Amoled or OLED displays so they can't solve this issue. Write to the companies that actually make them. Apple could make larger phones with older displays but to do so would be a huge expense given currently manufacturing techniques and Apple would need to know how many people with PWM sensitivity would actually be buying them. It would have to be a large number.


I don't know who you are claiming said that PWM sensitivity doesn't exist in this thread. No one did so making most or your post irrelevant.


Oct 14, 2022 9:06 AM in response to WideAwake

There are sites that rate all PWMs and some are more tolerable than others to those with sensitivity. I think the ones with faster refresh rates are less irritating. I don't think I can post a link to other sites here. I don't want to switch to Android. I like that all my Apple devices sync and I have never liked Android format or their security issues.

Nov 2, 2022 8:25 AM in response to wstudio

Nope, just saying incorrect doesn’t mean anything. Early in this thread one person mentioned a website that listed the response rate of various screens. A variable refresh rate that can go to 120 would alleviate eye strain, not make it worse. But again, it has nothing to do with PWM which is what this thread is supposed to be about.

Nov 6, 2022 12:09 PM in response to Dogcow-Moof

The display put in the iPhones are custom build for the iPhones. They are not a standard display on the market. Apple makes the specs and then finds a manufacturer to meet the specs. Just as they recently switched manufacture to meet the specs. An example is no other phone has the same brightness nits as an iPhone not even a galaxy phone has the new displays even tho they manufacture them. They are made custom at Samsung based on Apples specs. So it would be incorrect to say they don’t have a say in manufacturing the display as they play a major part in it.

Nov 6, 2022 12:45 PM in response to deggie

I’m not sure where your getting your info from, as it is incorrect as the display on the iPhone is one of the best on the market and not even galaxy devices which are manufactured by Samsung have them. For the fact no other phone on the market has the same peak brightness! There are many articles that explain this. Apple chooses a display to meet there standards if it doesn’t they will find competitors to meet them….https://www.sammobile.com/news/iphone-14-pro-brightest-panel-from-samsung-even-galaxy-phones-dont-have/

Nov 6, 2022 12:57 PM in response to wstudio

The peak brightness on the Pro Max is a little higher but Samsung won't release their new Galaxy's until March at which point their screens will probably surpass that. There aren't a lot of competitors to choose from out there so if Samsung, buy far the largest supplier currently can't meed what Apple is asking for then they will suggest they buy from someone else. Apple had to bail out TSMC so they would not be able to come close to supplying all the displays that they need.


But you seem to believe that Apple can write "specs" for someone to put a fusion reactor and then someone will supply it. They do not design a display screen and then give that to Samsung to build it. It is not new technology to have an incremental increase it brightness on OLED screens. They don't have to retool to build it. It is an incremental improvement. And this isn't the first time that Apple has had a Samsung screen that was better than what was currently being sold by Samsung. But that is because of different release cycles. Samsung releases in March and Apple around October.


But Appel does not DESIGN OLED screens. They negotiate with Samsung for what can be done within their production cycle. They cannot come up with a "spec" for a 1000k PWM response OLED display that has the same power draw as the current display unit. Because that isn't possible.

Nov 6, 2022 1:05 PM in response to deggie

I don’t understand your point? Are you trying to argue what I have stated? You seem to be rude and targeting me. Apple will be able to fix the issue in the future. I’m confident in Apple that they will see the issue and address it. Pwm is a display issue, but Apple is not speechless when it comes to their customers. Again in the article it explains that if a display doesn’t meet apples standards they will find a manufacture that does.


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