How to schedule Shut down in macOS Ventura

Having upgraded to Ventura, I just spent a chunk of time with Apple support over the phone about this very topic. I don't think we can do that any more (waaaaaah). Energy Saver is gone in Ventura. One can open Terminal and program commands for the display to sleep, but I do not believe there is a command to shut down, let's say, every day at 1:00 AM. I told the support rep of my displeasure, and she took my feedback seriously and has passed this up the ladder. She indicated that feedback like this is taken seriously and I hope they'll bring back Energy Saver in some form via an update. I'm also hoping that actor Rufus Sewell will appear at my door and tell me he's madly in love with me. We shall see how responsive Apple is to what I suspect will be a large cacophony of users pleading for this feature to be returned.

jpknox wrote:

Dear Apple: Bring it back and make it better, easier to use.

Apple does not read here in this user-to-user forum for feedback or suggestions. However, they do provide a dedicated page for giving them your thoughts:

Product Feedback - Apple

As it is not hardware but software related, you'll have more impact if you report it in the macOS section, that you can find here:

Feedback - macOS - Apple

So I encourage you to report again but in the correct section :)

Please, send Apple feedbacks to make them aware of the issue it creates to our workflows...

Product Feedback - Apple

We should not need to use Terminal for such basic feature...

Suggest that you raise it as a big report or feature request. The more that do the more likely we are to get it back😊

I am trying to run the Photos duplicate photo finder but cannot because the Energy Saver Settings carried thru from Monterey log me out after 15 minutes of inactivity thus stopping Photos. I cannot reset my power options as I used to when wanting to run a background feature eg identify Faces in Photos. It used to so easy.....

Or did they hide the GUI setting in some other System Preference? Apple moved a lot of settings around as well as removing some. I definitely don't care for the new layout and location for various settings. Apple....pick a design & location, test it out thoroughly with lots of beta testers to find out what works and what people want & need before just making a change for changes sake. People don't want to play games of "Where is setting X" on their devices with each and every update/upgrade.

Apple is not here on these forums so you can provide Apple with product feedback here (Apple won't respond):

Product Feedback - Apple

Believe me when I say I looked everywhere for the UI. I cannot fathom their (Apple) reasoning for eliminating this, in my humble opinion, essential feature. In the meantime, I downloaded the Terminal commands related to Power Management (pmset). In the brief moments I attempted to modify my power settings I was confronted with error messages that gave me cause to stop and look into this further. You would think that there would be an App for this! No dice.

Thanks, dialabrain. I just tried your suggested command string and was "told" bad command. Please note that I am very green at using terminal commands but I think I did everything correctly. Have you yourself tried the command that you suggested?

The command posted by dialabrain should work, but Apple includes this note:

Your Mac must be awake and you must be logged in for it to shut down at the scheduled time. If you’re not logged in or if your Mac is in sleep, it won’t shut down. (bold added)

A problem I've noticed is that I had a sleep schedule set up in `Monterey and it seems that this is still active in Ventura, yet there now no way to turn this off or change it. Seems a bit of an oversight IMO.

@ benekk. Maybe paolo294's suggestion will work: sudo pmset repeat cancel.

I also suppose one could reload Monterey, go in and cancel out the Monterey set up. and then re-load Ventura. A bit labor intensive and I am be no means a solution wizard -- probably more of a solution peasant -- and if I chose this route I'd back up every time I switched between OS systems.

benekk wrote:

A problem I've noticed is that I had a sleep schedule set up in `Monterey and it seems that this is still active in Ventura, yet there now no way to turn this off or change it. Seems a bit of an oversight IMO.

I've been noticing a lot of these oversights with Apple over the last few years. Really shows the lack of proper forethought and testing. Seems like one person has all the say, or everyone are Yes "men" (people). The line "**** the torpedoes, full speed ahead" comes to mind. Apple's philosophy seems to be those users will buy anything we sell them, we have them so locked into our ecosystem for them to leave (or leave for long).

Here's a related problem... I had scheduled a shutdown before updating, and now my computer remembers the scheduled shutdown but I cannot disable it. Does anybody have a sudo command for disabling the auto shutdown?

Thank you so much.