Why the fuss about USBC

When I go to France I charge my iPhone exactly the same way I charge it in the UK.

Apple connector from iPhone into charger with added French adapter for the power plug. Why would Apple need to change the connection on the iPhone I don’t use it to connect??

I keep reading it’s taken the Europeans ten years to get Apple to change its plugs.Why?

I understand USBC may be better etc etc, but the stories are making people think their phones will be out of date by 2024, when I will still charge the way I’ve always charged - I think?? Please tell me what I’m missing?

iPhone 7, iOS 15

Posted on Oct 25, 2022 4:17 PM

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Posted on Oct 25, 2022 6:39 PM

Over its history, Apple has had two connectors for iPhone. The so-called 30-pin, and the more recent and familiar Lightning connector. USB-C will be the third.


Why a different connector? Europe is seeking to reduce the amount of electronic trash created each year.


Requiring all phones to use the same standard USB-C connector means the same cables can be used and re-used, and the same chargers can be used and re-used, regardless of vendor and model. You don’t need to buy new cables and chargers, as everybody shifts over to USB-C power delivery. While there are differences in the grid and power sockets, USB-C connectors means you don’t (also) need to acquire a vendor-specific charger and/or vendor-specific cable for the outlets when you travel.


This might seem small, but a whole lot of chargers do get shipped. And those then eventually become trash.


Beyond easier swapping cables among iPhone and Android phones, and increasingly among headphones and otherwise, migrating to USB-C means common chargers and cables work for operating with iPad and Mac, too. This so long as the charger has enough wattage, as USB-C can now support up to 240 watts.


And for clarity, USB-C is a connector specification, not a protocol specification. A whole bunch of stuff can work over USB-C connectors, depending on what the connected devices implements. Currently, Thunderbolt, USB communications, and USB power delivery (PD) are among the most common uses of the USB-C connectors, though there are others including video.

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Oct 25, 2022 6:39 PM in response to Tony Rees

Over its history, Apple has had two connectors for iPhone. The so-called 30-pin, and the more recent and familiar Lightning connector. USB-C will be the third.


Why a different connector? Europe is seeking to reduce the amount of electronic trash created each year.


Requiring all phones to use the same standard USB-C connector means the same cables can be used and re-used, and the same chargers can be used and re-used, regardless of vendor and model. You don’t need to buy new cables and chargers, as everybody shifts over to USB-C power delivery. While there are differences in the grid and power sockets, USB-C connectors means you don’t (also) need to acquire a vendor-specific charger and/or vendor-specific cable for the outlets when you travel.


This might seem small, but a whole lot of chargers do get shipped. And those then eventually become trash.


Beyond easier swapping cables among iPhone and Android phones, and increasingly among headphones and otherwise, migrating to USB-C means common chargers and cables work for operating with iPad and Mac, too. This so long as the charger has enough wattage, as USB-C can now support up to 240 watts.


And for clarity, USB-C is a connector specification, not a protocol specification. A whole bunch of stuff can work over USB-C connectors, depending on what the connected devices implements. Currently, Thunderbolt, USB communications, and USB power delivery (PD) are among the most common uses of the USB-C connectors, though there are others including video.

Oct 26, 2022 6:36 AM in response to Tony Rees

Tony Rees wrote:

Regarding another reply I received, I understand the difference between the connectors, but I’m still at a loss why this is a government problem.


Answered earlier. Trash. Pollution. Trash is a social problem. Pollution is a production problem, too. Which makes trash a government problem.


And our beloved devices and its cables and chargers and the rest are eventually trash, if not sooner.


With the same gear everywhere, reuse is feasible, packaging and shipping and electronic waste is reduced, and—contrary to what might be business preference here, what with expensive cables and parts—common parts are commodities.


The costs of electronic waste are recorded by others—paid for by individuals in their trash bills, and society as a whole with the piles of trash and the efforts to reduce and dispose of same—and—short of requiring the businesses to recycle, which is where we’re headed—are not costs otherwise considered or accounted for by (most) businesses, or are something actively increased in the interests of increasing business profits; by vendor-specific and weird cables (e.g. Lightning), etc.


For each of us, the shift to USB-C means commodity parts are more common, more interchangeable, and with associated cost savings.


In different terms, the costs of passport controls and the inevitable losses from currency exchanges coming and going were a big motivation for the European Community. Businesses just passed those costs along, and we all paid. The mess and the costs of crossing borders was not to be underestimated, and the common currency and common border controls makes that all vastly easier. (The US has something similar to the EU here, due to its size, too. Having six different currencies and border crossings in New England would be a disaster, just as it was an expensive mess in Europe prior to the union.) The border crossings were a form of insensible financial losses for all of us, in terms of added payments and percentages and fees, and scheduling delays, similar to the insensible losses from electronic waste. But these border activities were profitable for the border businesses and the casas de cambio, and profitable for the folks selling unique cables and chargers.

Oct 26, 2022 1:56 AM in response to MrHoffman

Interesting answer, particularly re swapping between Apple and Android, though I’m all Apple, so unless I have an Android friend in need …

Regarding another reply I received, I understand the difference between the connectors, but I’m still at a loss why this is a government problem.

My wife and I both have iPads and iPhones and use the same charging mechanism when in France as the UK. The only difference being the need to adapt the power socket to the European two prong. No extra cables, nothing is different.

so where is all this trash coming from. We use the same lightening cables for iPads and iPhone as used in UK

if I take my, say, portable audio player, there is no need to change the plug on the player, again only adapt the plug that goes into the power socket.

as to whether USBC is better than lightening, well that’s a question for Apple not the government ???


Oct 26, 2022 7:22 AM in response to MrHoffman

Wow, didn’t realise what could achieved by changing a plug.

Although I understand a lot of what you say, and yes “trash” is certainly a problem, maybe stopping people spending a fortune on bottled water would be better for government intervention as that is a completely unnecessary purchase in Europe.

Personally I have never thrown away an Apple connector, so in spite of the answers I’ve been getting, why Governments need to tell Apple to change its connectors is still a mystery.


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