Problems macOs Ventura and Photos App.

After downloading macOs Ventura to my iMac. Editing photos in the Photos app is having problems. I use a Nikon Z7, i shoot in raw. Photos are nice and clear from the camera card. When i edited thru Photos App, photos are blurry and not focused. Had no problems with Monterey. Called Apple support, no help.

Posted on Oct 31, 2022 3:12 PM

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Jan 2, 2023 9:44 PM in response to SnowriderCO

My issue seems to be resolved. My library is on an external HD, 1.3 TB in size. I had my library on a Crucial X8 SSD, speed up to 1050 Mb/s. Any raw images that were edited would be out of focus and would not transfer to my iPad for iPhone. I have moved my library to a Sandisk Extreme Pro, speed up to 2000 Mb/s. Now the images are in focus and the images transfer to my iPad and iPhone.


Old drive: Crucial X8, 1050 Mb/s

New drive: Sandisk Extreme Pro, 2000 Mb/s


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Dec 8, 2022 8:05 PM in response to tbear09

I'm having very buggy behavior as well with my Sony A7iii RAW files. With the RAW file open, often if I simply 2 finger touch the trackpad on my MBP, it will get blurry, sometimes the color balance shifts. Sometimes, I'll return to the picture and everything appears to be normal. Sometimes it reverts back to normal, sometimes it does not. What I've been doing is exporting the RAW file to Affinity, making my edits and saving the file as a TIFF or PNG.


It's difficult to get a screen capture of the color balance and exposure change because I can't do shift/command/4 and move the cursor with the trackpad at the same time.


Attached is an example of the blurry issue I'm having. The photo wasn't edited. It is a cropped screen capture of the same photo after simply touching the trackpad. I was freaking out a little because initially, I thought every picture from a 300 picture photo shoot was out of focus.


I always shoot RAW, but I may use JPEG for a while until this is resolved.




Nov 1, 2022 10:29 AM in response to TonyCollinet

Hey Tony..

The problems seems to happen with raw files from the camera.. Maybe the file is to big. When i switch the camera to jpg mode. I can edited the photos in Photos app and drop pictures in my Dropbox folder. If i take a raw file and edited to Luminar AI first, then save to the Photos App., I can edited the photo and drop file to Dropbox folder. There's a bunch of people talking about this problem on MacRumors Forums. I think its a software problem. I'll be able to check the problem with another Nikon camera later today.

Dec 9, 2022 8:20 AM in response to Caute3

Caute3 wrote:

Raw files have always been edited on photos for Mac. This problem is with Ventura. All professional photographers use Raw. Size should not be an issue.

The size could be an issue for two possible reasons - on a Mac with not much memory, or when your Mac is low on storage, and you are using iCloud Photos. Then the optimized versions may be blurry.

Also, I am seeing blurry previews of my edited RAW files on my Mac, if I touch the RAW images on my iPhone and add some adjustments there and sync the adjustments with iCloud to the Mac. Then the iPhone edited versions are based on the embedded JPEG previews and are having a much smaller pixel size than the original RAW files.


Dec 14, 2022 10:19 AM in response to Richard.Taylor

Good idea. Although, a single, arbitrary adjustment to the blurry version followed immediately by reverting to the original is enough to get back a sharp image. That avoids having to do any serious editing on the blurry version.


I forgot to mention in my original post that I also have the RAW Power extension installed in Photos. When I edit with RAW Power, images that import blurry because of the bug are saved as sharp as the originals in my camera.


Jan 13, 2023 8:16 AM in response to tbear09

I am using a Nikon D850 and shoot RAW only. Since the Ventura upgrade, after making an edit when I return to look at the picture in full screen, it comes up blurry. A work around is to click the Edit button and then the image is rendered at full resolution.


I don't know if this is related but a lot of the same pictures that appear blurry unless I go into Edit mode are also in the "Unable to Upload" folder in Photos and are not syncing to iCloud and my other devices.

Jan 25, 2023 9:29 AM in response to tbear09

Alas, it's still glitchy. After the update to 13.2 on an M1 Max, some, not all, RAW images in photos contend with non-responsive zoom slider and image fuzziness until "edit" is selected at which point the image clears up and the zoom slider works again. It's a frustrating inconvenience in usability but for now can be worked around, I guess.

Jul 23, 2023 5:29 PM in response to PiperMAC

It's still an issue and I'm not using iCloud but my computer

Ventura 13.4.1 and Apple Photos 🙄 : so many bugs! 

Importing from a memory card is a rolled dice, sometime it does and quickly

other times is stuck for ever and has nothing to do with the number of photos imported. There are Sony ARW photos

I tried to quit several processes linked to Photos but at that point the only solution is at least to log out and back in.

I'm working on a brand new Mac Studio M2 , 32GB memory: not a memory concern...

RAW photos cannot be edited by Photos tools: they blur immediately.

Even RAW photos from iPhone get the same blurry effect beside I have to import them twice because the first time there are no photos imported.

Any other plugin from other apps, Affinity Photos, Pixelmator, RawPower works.

In Monterey Photos was working with none of these issues

I reported to Apple but it's very disappointing

Do you use DXO 6 as your photo organizer?

Dec 9, 2022 9:09 AM in response to Keith Barkley

If I export the photo, yes, it shows the same blurriness in preview as well. The blurriness is absolutely from Photos. If I choose edit with Affinity, even from a blurry thumbnail, there is no blurriness when I export the file to anything EXCEPT Photos. If I edit in Affinity and save in Photos, it's blurry again. If I export the Affinity edited photo to the desktop, it's not blurry. It's ONLY blurry in Photos.

Dec 10, 2022 2:58 PM in response to untalented_clod

I can confirm the same problem with blurry photos. I shoot RAW with a Leica M10-P and I have tons of memory in my MacBook Pro. The photos usually look sharp after importing but blurry after editing with Photos built-in editing tools. Haven't been able to figure out if it is a specific tool. Sometimes it happens with auto-enhance. Sometimes a photo imports as blurry. I also notice that I cannot zoom a photo properly in Photos' browser after the photo has been edited.


I can almost always fix the problem for any particular photo by reverting to the original and then editing again. Frustrating. I have submitted a bug report to Apple.

Dec 5, 2022 10:35 AM in response to TonyCollinet

TonyCollinet wrote:

Can you post a couple of screenshots (CMD-shift-4) to show what you mean?

What happens if you open one of the raw files in preview?
What happens if you revert to original, and then try the edits again?
Does this happen with jpg images or only the raw files.
Can you download a raw file from a different camera - does it happen with this?

Answers to Tony's original questions could be helpful

Dec 9, 2022 9:13 AM in response to untalented_clod

Did you export the unmodified original to view it in Preview.

Does affinity use the Apple RAW engine or its own?


I suggest that the Apple RAW engine is defaulting with the sharpness value set wonky to cause the blur. If you reset the sharpness in Photos it should fix itself, though it should not happen in the first place. I have asked on the Canon board if anyone else has noticed this behavior.

Feb 27, 2023 8:32 AM in response to forgreeneyes

I've also had a similar issue (although I've never used Pixelmator). I DID have an error message when attempting to drag a photo to my desktop. The problem is less of an issue now since downloading the most recent update to Ventura. I'm currently running 13.2.1 Is is far less problematic with this most recent update, so I assume the issue was at least addressed as opposed to resolved. I've tested it several times since 13.2.1 with no issues. I'm shooting uncompressed RAW on my Sony A7iii. The work around for me initially was to open the file in Photos and then edit in Affinity (used as a plug in) and saving the file in Photos. It SEEMS to be working fine now however, and the editing seems to be working well without the aid of Affinity. I'm going out later this afternoon for a more extensive shoot and I'll report back with any issues. I'll be shooting in Raw, uncompressed Raw and JPEG, so I should have a good representative sample.

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