ventura and signature image problems

Ventura has messed up adding an image and text to mail signature.


MacBook Pro 14″, macOS 13.0

Posted on Nov 30, 2022 4:53 AM

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Nov 30, 2022 7:39 AM in response to alix86




alix86 wrote:

Small signature image moves under its text when set in Settings to be above. If image is moved to correct place when writing an email, especially when replying to one, the image goes to the end of all emails.
Many people having this problem and Apple should sort this as a priority as it messes up business correspondence.


Have you made changes to suit your needs—


Close all composing or replying windows—

Uncheck "Always insert attachments at the end of messages: Mail>Edit>Attachments>



Feb 15, 2023 3:01 PM in response to Bradley_Sherwood

I am having the same issues. After copying the ~V10/MailData/Signatures folder from the Mac Mini being replaced because Mail wouldn't save any new signatures; we had to go straight into the .mailSignature files [/Users/<myuser>/Library/Mail/V10/MailData/Signatures/] themselves to update using text edit to make any changes. Something is broken in new Ventura installs on our MacBook Pros.

Nov 30, 2022 7:51 AM in response to alix86

alix86 wrote:

Thank you, Leroy, but then attaching any documents/images relevant to the contents of a message land up above the signature making the signature way down/unnoticed by recipient!




You can file a bug report /submit your Apple Feedback here:  hhttp://www.apple.com/feedback


With any luck Apple will understand the issue, and a point up date that follows the new Ventura 13.0.1 will resolve your issue.

Feb 16, 2023 3:03 AM in response to alix86

I've just experimented with creating a small image to attach to my signature, converting it to a PDF and tried sending some Test emails. Seems to work but not sure whether it would to all recipients. May just appear as saying there's a PDF file below my signature. Because of the uncertainty, I'm not going to use a PDF image and will continue to sweat on Apple getting its act together after so many months.

Feb 1, 2023 4:40 PM in response to alix86

We have several Macbook Pro's running ventura and most are running smoothly with no problem with email signatures. We did the old way of adding true HTML signatures by accessing the Library / Mail / Signatures etc...to install them. This works fine on most computers, but it doesn't on 2 different users. Fresh installs of Ventura on M1 Macbook Pro's and something is buggy with Apple Mail. When you go into signatures and create one and then leave mail, it doesn't prompt you to save anything, it is missing something in this phase. The old way always prompted you to save and you would see the signature file created in the Libary / Mail folder. This time when it wouldn't work, I manually created the Signature Folder in the Mail folder and put a real signature in there, when I come to the app, the signature shows up, but when you edit the signature name etc...it doesn't save any changes. Any suggestions?

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