Why "login items" notifications pop up while there's no app listed on startup or background?

I deleted and inactivated all the apps in System Preferences/General/Login Items but "Login Items" notifications keep popping up. There is no app info in the notifications. Just says "Login Items"...


What and why is that?

MacBook Air 13″, macOS 13.1

Posted on Dec 13, 2022 4:12 PM

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Posted on Feb 6, 2023 12:46 AM

Good to hear!


Applications or programs, especially not downloaded from the App Store, aren’t just removed from moving from the Apps folder to the Trash......as you’ve seen.


The best way, for the others here, is to utilize the un-installation instructions provided by the developer of the software, if available. However if the issues remain, the two locations you checked are where these apps store key components.


Other locations, particularly in the /Macintosh HD/Library is to check for the name of the app or developer in these locations, delete them and restart, (If of course deleting from /Applications, or using their uninstall instructions didn’t work:


Application Support

Extensions

Internet Plugins

Launch Agents

Launch Daemons

Scripting Additions

Staged Extensions

Startup Items


This is normally not needed, especially if truly uninstalled, and Mac is up to date, as well any any signed software, but I think the developers for these third party (Non-Apple) applications have to update their code to work with the ever-strict, but necessary Apple software.


In my opinion, it’s a small price to pay for this service. However I’m sure if Apple is aware of this notification type problem, and it isn’t completely necessary, they would fix it, however I like being notified when any Application starts running in the background every time I just log in. This gives the end user even more control and transparency.


If you truly would like to notify Apple of your concerns, I would contact them directly, they aren’t to get a hold of by phone:


Contact Apple for support and service - Apple Support


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Feb 23, 2023 1:34 PM in response to olcayche

Could be adware. I've had this problem and used... I don't know if I can mention the name of the software I used, I've gotten in trouble before for doing that. In any case there are programs out there which can remove spyware and adware from your device. Works beautifully! Careful however some of these programs can cause more trouble than they solve.

Feb 27, 2023 3:11 AM in response to bartosz149

bartosz149 wrote:

Hi, I'm having the same issue.
Even though the pop up notifs are from apps that no longer exist on my hard drive!

The apps may no longer be on your Mac, but since you didn’t uninstall all parts of the apps, specifically the helpers that are running the background processes. If you didn’t use the uninstaller for the app, then you’ll have to dig around to find the remnants. Most often they are in the LaunchAgents or LaunchDaemons folder. EtreCheck might be able to help you find them.

Mar 5, 2023 3:39 PM in response to etresoft

etresoft wrote:

These 3rd party launchd tasks are something that only exists on macOS, not iOS. Since macOS is rapidly behind phased out in favour of iOS, this is just this year's mechanism to clean out more of the old chaff.

macOS is not being rapidly “phased out in favour of iOS”, and you conflating their cleaning out “more of the old chaff” with that baseless speculation is just nonsense. I've used Macs since 2003, and I've seen Apple do precisely that for almost two decades now with a lot of their own APIs and frameworks… They had to phase out Classic Mac OS-related technologies, such as Carbon, and now they're phasing out NeXTSTEP-related ones; it's all part of their 10-year-ish technological cycle (look at how their processor transitions went for a frame of reference), and the fact that iOS-derived or even pure iOS ones are being used in macOS, and even the mess that is running iOS and iPadOS apps on macOS, doesn't mean anything about the latter's future (as a matter of fact, their relative unpopularity among die-hard Mac users further cements macOS's standing in the market).


This is just Apple really cleaning up shop (you at least got that part right, I'll give it to you), and taking advantage of yet some more economies of scale for their own OS engineers and opening those up to third-party developers. There will be extremely lazy ones who'll just make iOS/iPadOS apps available for the Mac, others will use Electron or Catalyst and do a terrible job at optimizing them, and others still will create proper Mac apps from the ground up, regardless of what frameworks they use.


Yeah, the day Apple gets rid of macOS and forces me to use an iPad, or run iPadOS on a Mac (or at least iPadOS in its current state, and without opening the app distribution marketplace – as they will be forced to in many jurisdictions anyway before said OS is even ready for desktop computers, incidentally, so there's some hope there), is the day I go back to a Windows PC. And Apple engineers, execs, etc. know perfectly well I'm not the only one who would do that; most recent and even old-time PC switchers, and even some old-time, all-time Mac users would, too. Using Steve Jobs's “truck analogy”, there are still trucks on the road, am I right? And while Apple did kill off servers, they're already on their third “server” iteration, with their rack-mountable, “cheese grater 2.0” Mac Pro, which may very well be killed off this month, so it's not exactly something that ever really stuck or was in their design and market DNA. Macs are wildly successful because they strike the perfect balance between simplicity and complexity/hackability, all these stupid bugs, oversights and forced transitions notwithstanding.

Mar 14, 2023 4:13 PM in response to etresoft

Since the loss of Jobs, Apple's goin downhill faster than Ivan Origone, Even the clerks at the local Mac store agreed on this (I went in to get a upgrade on my Crapple TV, which should be doable at home. The Crapple phone techs, awesome folks btw some of whom I'm getting to be on a first name basis with since I have to call so often, couldn't figure it out, so I had to take it to the app store to get it done). In any case,


Login items notifications: In my case, it was a Google issue. I found it using a piece of cleaning software (when I mention the name of the software, which helps magnificently in keeping my Macs up and running smooth, the Crapple Community crew deletes my comment, so you'll have to figure it out). I ended up using the cleaning app and also deleting everything Google, and problem solved. Still working on other various vomitations, but this one is solved!

Mar 15, 2023 5:49 PM in response to Tmizera

I’ve got office 2019 and it doesn’t cause any problem whatsoever. I all those apps need to make their product work correctly under the new Ventura OS oh my other software that doesn’t include anything you have works fine no problem.

there are some apps, when they determine you’ve removed their background process start up item, reinstall it. Microsoft edge actually said something like, “the installation is damaged and needs to be repaired OK?“

after it repaired itself, I got one notification that it was installing a background process. That was it. it appears to know how to behave itself except the“repair” nonsense.

some people have had success with uninstalling and reinstalling the app, but many are just broken.

Apr 24, 2023 12:36 AM in response to olcayche

After 15 years on MacOS I have recently used Windows 10 - not even 11. It works with touch and keyboard interfaces and switches from a tablet to keyboard mode and doesn't crash or constantly update anymore and seems to have ....caught up...overtaken....


I use Apple for OS stability but that seems to be on the wane - these notifications are just part of the issues I am noticing, my Google Drive doesn't allow documents to open when double-clicked, as they would in any other directory; lots of other silly little issues I don't expect from an operating system in 2023 that offers interoperability


But this? It s huge bug - and had remained unfixed for months now - constantly annoying , no excuse.

Apr 29, 2023 5:16 PM in response to etresoft

Forgive me, but this has everything to do with notifications, and trinity_flight's comment was absolutely appropriate in this conversation. He or she had no need to "start (his or her) own question..." This entire thread is about unwanted login notifications. I am having the same issue.

etresoft wrote:


trinity_flight wrote:

I have turned off all notifications and still the banners appear.
Doesn't have anything to do with notifications. Please start your own question for your own, specific problem.


Aug 10, 2023 7:26 AM in response to olcayche

I am using a new M2 Ultra Mac Studio running Ventura 13.4, I constantly receive these Login Items pop-ups. The system I am using has the entire Microsoft Office Suite installed as well as Google's Chrome browser. I also use a Macbook Pro that only has the Adobe Creative Cloud apps installed as well as Chrome and I never recieve these Login Items pop-ups. This leads me to believe it is something Microsoft related that is not working properly with Ventura.

Why "login items" notifications pop up while there's no app listed on startup or background?

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