I deleted and inactivated all the apps in System Preferences/General/Login Items but "Login Items" notifications keep popping up. There is no app info in the notifications. Just says "Login Items"...
What and why is that?
MacBook Air 13″, macOS 13.1
Jay Gamel wrote:
... What I would like to know is why apple cannot identify the offending app and include it in the notice. Obviously, the warnings are issued on a specific instance related to a specific app.
You're right, but identifying the app in question can become very challenging, particularly for apps that a user installed under the guise of something "free" — for example, products specifically designed to harvest personal information and / or deliver targeted interest-based advertisements that accrue revenue simply by loading a webpage.
People have been plucking that poison fruit for years, but the creeping incremental nature of such things appears to have motivated Apple to finally Do something!!!™ exactly as users have been clamoring for them to do, and for at least that long.
Well, guess what? They got what they asked for. Apple's implementation of it is imperfect, but if I had a better idea I'd be sure to recommend it. Or, I'd develop it myself.
Which brings us to:
I am not a programmer so I don't understand what prevents the app ID from being recorded and reported.
Mac users are not expected to be programmers. They aren't even expected to know much about computers or anything else of a technical nature. They just want to use their magical Apple stuff and not have it get in the way of doing whatever it is they need them for.
So, what about inexplicable annoyances regarding mysterious login items, or intrusive dialogs like "<suspicious_app> may damage your Mac" that result as a consequence of a Mac user installing something they may have long since forgotten about?
Fortunately, some of us are programmers and are very good at it. EtreCheck can help identify what those apps may be, and will help others suggest what to examine and / or delete at the user's discretion. To learn how to use it and how to post its report in a reply to this Discussion or any other, please read How to use the Add Text Feature When Posting Large Amounts of Text, i.e. an Etrecheck Report - Apple Community.
By the way I have not read all nine pages of this Discussion. If EtreCheck was recommended elsewhere I wouldn't know. When a Discussion gets this long and convoluted few people will be sufficiently motivated to study it in any depth, so if it was already suggested it's probably a good idea to reiterate it anyway.
@kimberlee168
Here's the link: https://www.droidwin.com/remove-deleted-apps-from-background-login-items-in-ventura/
Everything is explained there step by step :)
Cheers!
Get a malware removal tool, it's adware from google. Delete EVERYTHING Google from your drive. They're spying on ya besides the pain in the butt.
This really works! I tried this and the notifications stopped. It has been more than a week now and the notifications haven't come up.
I agree, apple needs to provide a solution.
After trying many things, I thought uninstalling extensions would be my final attempt at this. Unfortunately the notifications continue to pop up every few minutes!
Jacobx wrote:
Is there an update here?
Not here. You will need to start your own question for your own, specific problem. And PLEASE be specific. If you are getting notifications, please tell us what they say. If these are popping up that frequently, then you should be able to get a screenshot.
And if you didn't already know, that new "Login Items" / "Background apps" user interface is Ventura is just awful in every way imaginable. If you have made any changes of any kind, if you ticked any checkbox, then you could actually be causing this problem, not fixing it. And in other cases, the cause could simply be old software that isn't aware of this new interface. But there is no way for anyone else to know unless you provide more details about YOUR problem.
It's really disappointing that macOS is only targeted for handful of devices also which is their own house devices still they are struggling with their OS each and every year having comical bugs all around. Personally I am sort of tired of this. Just push a stable OS in the market. We as a consumer do not want your fancy new OS updates with new names every year.
trinity_flight wrote:
Your continuous negative commentary is counter productive.
Oh is it now?
If you don't have a solution get off the thread or provide a possible work around.
In fact, I have solved this problem for 8 different people. But those people started their own questions and provided information about their own specific problem.
I disabled all log in items. Mow it is the "Login Item" message coming up two at a time and adding up. Hopefully, Apple will do something about this. I am watching this space for some solutions from devs.
I'm having the same problem too. I usually wouldn't post that fact, but I know it will annoy that etrasoft guy. I also know that Apple does not care and they won't do anything about it. As long as they're selling their iPhones.
All my notifications are turned off. I have nothing in 'open at startup' but every time I open my Mac I get 10 - yes, ten - 'Login Items Notification'. I've tired everything below and nothing works. Is Apple reading this? After restarts I get 20+. This is REALLY annoying Apple - come on fix it! Never happened before Ventura!!!!!!!
It had nothing to do with an application. I don’t know why ppl keep trying to blame it on an app. The issue is and has always been notifications. I hate notifications on computer and even on my iPhone.
Thanks. The trouble is that I don't know which apps are causing the notifications. Do I assume it's all the ones in the login items list?
It looks like you have more identified background items than the rest of the world combined. I only see a few in your list that are unidentified. Some of those have developer names you may be able to search. One is calling a built-in function, kextload, so it is trying to start a kernel extension. It should only ever need to run that once. And, that function has been deprecated, so whatever is calling it should be updated to do it correctly.
For myself, the Microsoft Autoupdate and Licensing helper do not cause notifications.
I also run Carbon Copy Cloner and never get any notifications on that.
You are right it has to do with apps. But your fix is to remove all the apps I need to do my work or others task.
apple needs to fix the issue. It’s a bug that happened 2 updates ago. The last update didn’t fix the issue.
Here is a screen shot of the notifications I keep getting. I have spent over 2 hours with Apple Support on this and they cannot figure it out either. Every effort to correct it has failed. When I click on the notice, it just open the Login Items section in General Settings tab. Nothing there. I will post a screenshot of that too.
I disabled login items and problem got worse. reinabled one by one and now i have a list of login items on startup and restart that takes forever to delete.
This is so annoying and consumes so much time it is finally forcing me to consider leaving apple mac after all these years.
Apple has taken a step back into the dark ages when users had to continually fiddle with settings, reinstalling, etc.
Why "login items" notifications pop up while there's no app listed on startup or background?
