Why "login items" notifications pop up while there's no app listed on startup or background?

I deleted and inactivated all the apps in System Preferences/General/Login Items but "Login Items" notifications keep popping up. There is no app info in the notifications. Just says "Login Items"...


What and why is that?

MacBook Air 13″, macOS 13.1

Posted on Dec 13, 2022 4:12 PM

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Posted on Feb 5, 2023 4:09 PM

I solved mine by doing the following, until the Notifications stopped.


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Jan 7, 2023 2:37 PM in response to Jacobx

Jacobx wrote:

Is there an update here?

Not here. You will need to start your own question for your own, specific problem. And PLEASE be specific. If you are getting notifications, please tell us what they say. If these are popping up that frequently, then you should be able to get a screenshot.


And if you didn't already know, that new "Login Items" / "Background apps" user interface is Ventura is just awful in every way imaginable. If you have made any changes of any kind, if you ticked any checkbox, then you could actually be causing this problem, not fixing it. And in other cases, the cause could simply be old software that isn't aware of this new interface. But there is no way for anyone else to know unless you provide more details about YOUR problem.

Jan 11, 2023 12:15 PM in response to olcayche

It's really disappointing that macOS is only targeted for handful of devices also which is their own house devices still they are struggling with their OS each and every year having comical bugs all around. Personally I am sort of tired of this. Just push a stable OS in the market. We as a consumer do not want your fancy new OS updates with new names every year.

Feb 4, 2023 5:08 AM in response to Roger Blunden

Thanks. The trouble is that I don't know which apps are causing the notifications. Do I assume it's all the ones in the login items list?

It looks like you have more identified background items than the rest of the world combined. I only see a few in your list that are unidentified. Some of those have developer names you may be able to search. One is calling a built-in function, kextload, so it is trying to start a kernel extension. It should only ever need to run that once. And, that function has been deprecated, so whatever is calling it should be updated to do it correctly.


For myself, the Microsoft Autoupdate and Licensing helper do not cause notifications.

I also run Carbon Copy Cloner and never get any notifications on that.

Feb 13, 2023 8:29 AM in response to justin_900

I disabled login items and problem got worse. reinabled one by one and now i have a list of login items on startup and restart that takes forever to delete.


This is so annoying and consumes so much time it is finally forcing me to consider leaving apple mac after all these years.


Apple has taken a step back into the dark ages when users had to continually fiddle with settings, reinstalling, etc.

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