Why "login items" notifications pop up while there's no app listed on startup or background?

I deleted and inactivated all the apps in System Preferences/General/Login Items but "Login Items" notifications keep popping up. There is no app info in the notifications. Just says "Login Items"...


What and why is that?

MacBook Air 13″, macOS 13.1

Posted on Dec 13, 2022 4:12 PM

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Posted on Feb 6, 2023 12:46 AM

Good to hear!


Applications or programs, especially not downloaded from the App Store, aren’t just removed from moving from the Apps folder to the Trash......as you’ve seen.


The best way, for the others here, is to utilize the un-installation instructions provided by the developer of the software, if available. However if the issues remain, the two locations you checked are where these apps store key components.


Other locations, particularly in the /Macintosh HD/Library is to check for the name of the app or developer in these locations, delete them and restart, (If of course deleting from /Applications, or using their uninstall instructions didn’t work:


Application Support

Extensions

Internet Plugins

Launch Agents

Launch Daemons

Scripting Additions

Staged Extensions

Startup Items


This is normally not needed, especially if truly uninstalled, and Mac is up to date, as well any any signed software, but I think the developers for these third party (Non-Apple) applications have to update their code to work with the ever-strict, but necessary Apple software.


In my opinion, it’s a small price to pay for this service. However I’m sure if Apple is aware of this notification type problem, and it isn’t completely necessary, they would fix it, however I like being notified when any Application starts running in the background every time I just log in. This gives the end user even more control and transparency.


If you truly would like to notify Apple of your concerns, I would contact them directly, they aren’t to get a hold of by phone:


Contact Apple for support and service - Apple Support


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Feb 4, 2023 5:08 AM in response to Roger Blunden

Thanks. The trouble is that I don't know which apps are causing the notifications. Do I assume it's all the ones in the login items list?

It looks like you have more identified background items than the rest of the world combined. I only see a few in your list that are unidentified. Some of those have developer names you may be able to search. One is calling a built-in function, kextload, so it is trying to start a kernel extension. It should only ever need to run that once. And, that function has been deprecated, so whatever is calling it should be updated to do it correctly.


For myself, the Microsoft Autoupdate and Licensing helper do not cause notifications.

I also run Carbon Copy Cloner and never get any notifications on that.

Feb 4, 2023 7:17 PM in response to Alain_D

Alain_D wrote:

What is really annoying is that there is no information in the notification related to the application which triggers it.
Apple should be able to at least add this information to this notification.

It’s there. You just have it turned off. Go into System Settings > Notifications and set previews to show always.

Feb 6, 2023 4:12 AM in response to Real Mccoy

Real Mccoy wrote:

You are right it has to do with apps. But your fix is to remove all the apps I need to do my work or others task.

apple needs to fix the issue. It’s a bug that happened 2 updates ago. The last update didn’t fix the issue.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the app has fixed it for some. The other fix is contact the developer and tell them to fix their software to work with Ventura. If you’re using an app, that’s no longer supported or poorly, supported, find something else.

Feb 11, 2023 4:23 PM in response to srfleming

I went thru and turned everything off and rebooted and they still keep coming back.

Well, that makes them come back.

You have to uninstall the apps that are running the background processes.

Reinstalling the apps might cause them to work correctly. But, if you turn off the background process you installed the app to run, it will just repair itself and you will get another notification.

Feb 13, 2023 8:29 AM in response to justin_900

I disabled login items and problem got worse. reinabled one by one and now i have a list of login items on startup and restart that takes forever to delete.


This is so annoying and consumes so much time it is finally forcing me to consider leaving apple mac after all these years.


Apple has taken a step back into the dark ages when users had to continually fiddle with settings, reinstalling, etc.

Feb 13, 2023 10:21 AM in response to teachereck

I feel the same way. I used to like Apple because I was not bombarded with notifications. I felt in control, but, now, notifications pop up everywhere and it does not matter that I turn them off completely. Nothing matters anymore, notifications will notify you of nonsense everywhere (iphone, mac, etc) all the time. We’ve lost control. I am sad to leave Apple, but I have no choice at this point.

Feb 13, 2023 11:27 AM in response to lresendi

I'm not sure that the grass is greener on Android or Windows.

MacOS/iOS are very stable, and this is a huge benefit, that I would not sacrifice so quickly ...


And frankly, beside this login item issue, we really are in control of notifications.

I almost always refuse notifications from apps that I install (and iOS always ask if notifications have to be enabled).


Feb 17, 2023 8:35 PM in response to BoseKaspathy

Well I think I finally solve my issues. I found the Cleanup Script for the Samsung App and deleted it. Then I re-installed the Google Chrome App and the notifications stopped. Have restarted twice and no notices. Yippee! It has been a frustrating affair. This has been far more help in identifying the source than Apple Support phone service. They could not even tell me how to identify which apps were causing it. A simple setting in notifications put the finger on the culprits. Thanks to this thread someone posted to turn on preview in the notifications. Thanks for the help.

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