I deleted and inactivated all the apps in System Preferences/General/Login Items but "Login Items" notifications keep popping up. There is no app info in the notifications. Just says "Login Items"...
What and why is that?
MacBook Air 13″, macOS 13.1
Jay Gamel wrote:
... What I would like to know is why apple cannot identify the offending app and include it in the notice. Obviously, the warnings are issued on a specific instance related to a specific app.
You're right, but identifying the app in question can become very challenging, particularly for apps that a user installed under the guise of something "free" — for example, products specifically designed to harvest personal information and / or deliver targeted interest-based advertisements that accrue revenue simply by loading a webpage.
People have been plucking that poison fruit for years, but the creeping incremental nature of such things appears to have motivated Apple to finally Do something!!!™ exactly as users have been clamoring for them to do, and for at least that long.
Well, guess what? They got what they asked for. Apple's implementation of it is imperfect, but if I had a better idea I'd be sure to recommend it. Or, I'd develop it myself.
Which brings us to:
I am not a programmer so I don't understand what prevents the app ID from being recorded and reported.
Mac users are not expected to be programmers. They aren't even expected to know much about computers or anything else of a technical nature. They just want to use their magical Apple stuff and not have it get in the way of doing whatever it is they need them for.
So, what about inexplicable annoyances regarding mysterious login items, or intrusive dialogs like "<suspicious_app> may damage your Mac" that result as a consequence of a Mac user installing something they may have long since forgotten about?
Fortunately, some of us are programmers and are very good at it. EtreCheck can help identify what those apps may be, and will help others suggest what to examine and / or delete at the user's discretion. To learn how to use it and how to post its report in a reply to this Discussion or any other, please read How to use the Add Text Feature When Posting Large Amounts of Text, i.e. an Etrecheck Report - Apple Community.
By the way I have not read all nine pages of this Discussion. If EtreCheck was recommended elsewhere I wouldn't know. When a Discussion gets this long and convoluted few people will be sufficiently motivated to study it in any depth, so if it was already suggested it's probably a good idea to reiterate it anyway.
I’ve got office 2019 and it doesn’t cause any problem whatsoever. I all those apps need to make their product work correctly under the new Ventura OS oh my other software that doesn’t include anything you have works fine no problem.
there are some apps, when they determine you’ve removed their background process start up item, reinstall it. Microsoft edge actually said something like, “the installation is damaged and needs to be repaired OK?“
after it repaired itself, I got one notification that it was installing a background process. That was it. it appears to know how to behave itself except the“repair” nonsense.
some people have had success with uninstalling and reinstalling the app, but many are just broken.
After 15 years on MacOS I have recently used Windows 10 - not even 11. It works with touch and keyboard interfaces and switches from a tablet to keyboard mode and doesn't crash or constantly update anymore and seems to have ....caught up...overtaken....
I use Apple for OS stability but that seems to be on the wane - these notifications are just part of the issues I am noticing, my Google Drive doesn't allow documents to open when double-clicked, as they would in any other directory; lots of other silly little issues I don't expect from an operating system in 2023 that offers interoperability
But this? It s huge bug - and had remained unfixed for months now - constantly annoying , no excuse.
Forgive me, but this has everything to do with notifications, and trinity_flight's comment was absolutely appropriate in this conversation. He or she had no need to "start (his or her) own question..." This entire thread is about unwanted login notifications. I am having the same issue.
etresoft wrote:
trinity_flight wrote:
I have turned off all notifications and still the banners appear.
Doesn't have anything to do with notifications. Please start your own question for your own, specific problem.
Thank you very much for taking the time to respond. However, I have all updates and I can assure you, it was not fixed in the last update. Still, I am curious as to what prompted you to believe or suspect that it was fixed in the last update. On what grounds did you draw that conclusion? Again, thank you very much.
etresoft: I will be happy to excise offending apps as you suggest. What I would like to know is why apple cannot identify the offending app and include it in the notice. Obviously, the warnings are issued on a specific instance related to a specific app. I am not a programmer so I don't understand what prevents the app ID from being recorded and reported.
What I would like to know is why apple cannot identify the offending app and include it in the notice.
Nobody here can help with that. We don’t work for Apple. You’d have to find a way to ask Apple that question.
Hello, I understand that to attempt to solve this issue I should uninstall the app that is causing this issue. In fact I have done that before but it still seemed to show the notification. I thought maybe it was not a clean uninstall so I reinstalled it and uninstalled it again. However it still is showing the same problem. Do you have any tips on what my next steps could be to try to remedy this problem?
I was getting help from tech support and we tried several things. The problem was not resolved.
Thanks! I did some of these things yesterday, but today the notification started to pop-up again. I will give it another shot.
Yes- from what I've gathered, it has something to do with it.
Is there an update here? Getting these alerts every few minutes is clearly not a user issue but something that apple needs to provide a solution for.
Yes, all of this started after I downloaded Ventura and am well aware the situation.
Yeah same for me.
trinity_flight wrote:
I have turned off all notifications and still the banners appear.
Doesn't have anything to do with notifications. Please start your own question for your own, specific problem.
Actually etresoft is spot on - part of this issue and what produces extreme annoyance is that there isn’t a clear way to disable the repetitive notifications. Not a separate issue.
Why "login items" notifications pop up while there's no app listed on startup or background?
