Mail crashing after installing macOS Ventura (clean install)

@jim1162,

no i’m the author of this thread and I have an Apple Silicon (M1) MacBook Air that this is happening or was but there are other posts and threads of other users that do have Intel Macs that having the same or similar issue.

@krypttic, thanks for posting while that forum may have to do with Ventura and Cox.email my issue was with Apple's own email and email.app and an email I was receiving from emergencyemail.com. While the issue itself is NOT resolved. I have been able to get around the problem by deleting the email messages that were in this issue and I unsubscribed to the email list so future emails from the list do not cause further issues until Apple figures out a way to resolve the problem.

I am going to read through the forum you posted a link to, to see if there is anything I can offer as far as a temporary work around. They may have already done what I have learned to do either way it's good to learn about these issues.

Thanks for posting...

Zelda01,

I feel you about the spam emails. here is my suggestion - DO NOT Unsubscribe to spam email. While unsubscribing to a subscription email you actually subscribed to helps remove you from the email list of that subscription. It DOES NOT remove you from a spammers email list. While Apple is attempting to help us eliminate spam by hiding our I.P. address etc, when you click on the unsubscribe link or button on a known spam email you have actually verified to the spammer that the email address they spam to is a live email account which in turn they not only send you more spam emails they as well mark it as a live email account and pass it onto a list for other spammers to send to that email address.

While I love the Apple eco-system. Apple has not address the spam email issue very well, while they give us these new tools to attempt to hide our information from prying eyes they do very little in controlling the spam that does come through. - You can set up your junk email controller in the mail.app to your hearts content and just when you think you have resolved BAM! - Another 500 spam emails come through.

I find it interesting because Apple does a great job in protecting our computers from Malware etc, but fails with junk/spam while both Google and Microsoft does a MUCH better job. I have three email accounts. 1 with iCloud, 1 With Outlook.com, and 1 Gmail account. - the gmail account has the least amount of spam forwarded to my mail.app on both my iPhone and Mac. While I still get hundreds and sometimes thousands of spam email from my iCloud account a day.

Apple introduced "Hide My Email." its a great concept, in that anything you either subscribe to or have suspicion you use that generated email address instead of your personal email address. You still get the email forwarded to your connected email address but the subscription service does not get your actual email address that way if you start noticing a lot of spam emails you can simple turn off or remove the account that has the spam forwarding to you in the tools that Apple provides. Once you eliminate that Hide my Email address the spam stops so long as you did not reply with your real email address.

The worst offenders are the ones that claim they don't sell your private information. So, I highly recommend you give "Hide My Email." a try when you are giving out your email to online stores, services that you don't know very well or subscriptions or websites that require you to register an email address.

And just because you own an Apple device, does not mean you have to stick to just Apple apps and or services, sometimes a better solution is available with a different company or service provider.

Hopefully, all this makes sense to you and is helpful.

If you're using macOS Ventura its already available to you. Just about any website you go to that requires you to use an email address when you go to the email address field and click on that field it should be the very first thing that pops up before enter your email address. Click on it and follow the instructions.

No change same issue - thanks. :)

Well, that didn't last very long - after all of the solutions I have tried and work arounds this ISSUE REMAINS and the mail.app continues to crash!

@AlS001

I agree, I have decided to follow @Jeffios suggestion - I am now back up again and running with macOS. Ventura 13.1 instead of 13.2 we will see what happens.