What does the rightmost color button do in the Mail > Fonts dialog?

I've read in another discussion here that with MacOS Ventura, it's now impossible to set the background color of a new email. Yet if that's true I'm puzzled what that rightmost color button (with the 'a' icon) actually does in Mail > Fonts. Clearly, the left button of those two sets the text color: if you select your text, then click that left button, then choose a color it properly sets the color of the text. Yet if you select your text, click the right button with the 'a' and choose a color it .... well, what does it do? It seems to also change the text color, but in some weird way that I don't understand. How is that right color button different from the left color button?

iMac 24″, macOS 13.3

Posted on May 9, 2023 8:10 PM

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Posted on May 9, 2023 8:53 PM

In Mail, I don't think it does anything. It should set the background color for the font, but I don't think Mail supports that.

It is a standard font panel that has functions that may or may not be implemented in any particular app.


If you select "Show Preview" from the ellipsis menu on the Font panel, you can see what affect each change has on the font.


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May 9, 2023 8:53 PM in response to rick7

In Mail, I don't think it does anything. It should set the background color for the font, but I don't think Mail supports that.

It is a standard font panel that has functions that may or may not be implemented in any particular app.


If you select "Show Preview" from the ellipsis menu on the Font panel, you can see what affect each change has on the font.


May 10, 2023 12:47 PM in response to dialabrain

I can't get it to work and I'm not sure why. I’ve started to compose an email.  I press Command-T to bring up the Fonts panel/window. I select some text and then click on the leftmost of the two color buttons in that panel. That brings up the Colors panel. The dropdown is set to ‘Apple’. I click on Orange and my selected text turns orange.


I select some different text and click on the ‘a’ button, the rightmost of the two buttons we’re considering. The Colors panel is already displayed. I click on Cyan in that panel and…nothing happens. The text background color remains white, not Cyan. 


Is there some OK button, or APPLY button I’m missing?


I wonder if I have some option turned on that doesn’t allow the ‘text background’ feature to work.

May 10, 2023 1:12 PM in response to Barney-15E

Ohhh, right--thanks. I mistakenly interpreted dialabrain's message to be saying that the Fonts panel is the one that works, but now I see it's the Format bar that works. Well, that seems to clearly be a bug, but I guess it is what it is.


I actually was hoping for something slightly different: to paint the entire page a certain color, not just the immediate background to the text. With this "text background" feature, all blank lines between paragraphs, as well as left and white margins, remain white. I guess it's not possible to set the page color (or maybe it's called document color?). It seems that it used to be available but was removed some time ago.


I used to set the email page color when I was using Thunderbird for Windows 15 years ago and I really liked that feature.

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