HomePods keep auto-joining wrong network

I have to change this a few times per day.

iCloud keychain synchronises the other close by wifi network password to the homepods, but NOT the auto-join setting, and the Home app provides no interface to disable auto-join, only a way to revert to the correct network.

So the Home app even knows that the HomePods are not on the correct network, beats me why I have to manually correct it each time, again and again… and again.


HomeKit is already full of problems, having the homepods decide by themselves to go to another network triggers my annoyance even more to the point where I really start considering another biotope. Or just get rid of the whole setup.


Apple, please fix this.

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Posted on Aug 1, 2023 9:53 AM

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Nov 23, 2023 8:34 AM in response to ronth0mas

This works, and it solves another problem as well.

In another topic, I report that 11 thread devices stop working as soon as the 2 networks are close to each other. The 2nd network is a van with an office inside, and when it's parked in the garage, the lights in the house stop working after a few minutes already.

I suspect that the HomePods in the van are joining the home network on very regular short intervals and as border routers, they are completely messing up the configuration there.

Mind you, the auto-join was one thing, but even with auto-join off on the Mac and iPhone, the HomePods kept doing this.

Banning them from the wifi network completely solves that issue as well.


Apple still has some work to do on HomeKit, HomePods and Thread.

Nov 27, 2023 12:20 AM in response to peter_clarify

Not completely gone. Much less, but unfortunately 3 days later, the HomePods in the van are not on the van network anymore, but are stuck trying to join the home network. There was never a reason for them to do so, the wifi network in the van is working perfectly well.

I have reset them, and they rejoined the van network. But even when they did, 9 devices on my home network remained unavailable. I have cut the power to them, and minutes later these 9 devices are back up.

Apparantly the van homepods are able to interfere with the home network, even when they cannot access the home wifi network anymore. I think they somehow found a way using bluetooth. Maybe they just use magic. Not the kind of magic I like though.


We offer these bugs to Apple on a silver platter. The solution is to have:

  1. give people the choice which device should be the homekit hub, as opposed to automatically
  2. do not synchronise wifi auto-join over all devices with the same AppleID, auto-join makes sense on mobile devices, but not on devices that are never moving in and out of the network. I noticed I said that wrongly in the OP.
  3. make the wifi auto-join an accessible setting on the HomePods, so nearby wifi networks do not interfere with each other.


I understand things should be userfriendly, and I understand Apple is hiding options so people do not trigger options they should not touch. But IOT networks are a thing these days, and HomeKit has become an awful experience to me and my family, because this is not getting enough attention by Apple development in their ivory tower.

Nov 23, 2023 7:52 AM in response to peter_clarify

@peter_claiify

I forgot to mention that I have static IP addresses for the HomePods as well on that network. I have/use UniFi products for my network so I can see the pods trying to get on my other network…hope this helps also.


@Apple please allow us the ability in HomeKit to choose the device we want as our HomeKit hub. The HomePods are aggressively trying to be in the first position as the hub.

this is a major struggle when HomePods are set up as a stereo pair…

I understand HomePods are tied to the WiFi network your iPhone is on… it sure why this is the case.

those of us with multiple VLANS are going thru ****!!


la

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