HomeKit automation not working after iOS 17

I hope that some of you can make those automations work again with the next points:

1) turn on your location services AND most important 'significant locations'

2) make sure the time zone location service in privacy and security settings is turned on. (sunset and sun rise may differ from location to location, even when you stay in the same time zone)

3) Set date and time in 'General Settings' to automatic.

4) Delete and set up all time or sunset and rise related automations. Be sure to undo and redo some specific weekdays. It seems that during updates this informations has not been set up right. This may also happen when you switch to another iPhone of pod or AppleTV. (I think )

5 Open iCloud settings on all your devices and switch off the Home app from syncing.

6) Shut down all your devices and restart them.

7) Open iCloud settings again and switch syncing for the Home app on.

(And when by accident you have 'Home Controller app' installed because someone told you it was so useful, just delete that one. It may mess things up, don't instal it again.)

These points are only for those with automations not working. Siri not working has another reason is my believe. I don't give any guarantees ;-) But it will be nice to know if some of you get the automations to work again.

Updated to 17.2 > some progress!

Played with existing Automations and audio playback would only play 1 second then cut off or play a completely random audio track.

So I then trashed the old Automation and recreated with a new title (name) > Success. Automation worked.

What’s noteworthy here….if I recreated the Automation, but gave it the old title (name), it failed, just playing 1 second of audio. (Guess this is some iCloud sync issue)

Only tried it with a couple of broken Automations, so can’t say that issue is resolved, but looks promising.

Are using a VPN? 2.4Ghz router, with HomePod and connected devices? Have you turned on all allow precise location in home settings?

Automations / Shortcuts / Siri… in my experience are all completely unreliable since iOS17.

Sorry, no solutions here, just a list of some of the “bugs” I’m experiencing.

1. Simple on/off automations for Lights which worked previously, no longer work
2. Lights frequently turn on at 70% brightness instead of 100% - Adaptive lighting has never been used on any bulb
3. “Siri Turn On / Off the Lights in room xx ”…. Confirmation tone, but no action
4. I’m looking in the Home App at two configured, activated Automations which have just appeared…a) When The First Person Arrives Home’, b) When The Last Person Leaves Home’. I don’t / have never used or created any Automations which are Location dependent
5. Some Shortcurs / Automation's will work with Verify whilst building, but then fail when implemented, unable to discover why, so I just abandon
6. Frequently need to ask twice to get Siris attention
7. Several radiators (named Radiator Room Xx) which are controlled via TRV’s. Which Siri has had no problem with until iOS17. Now it’s….

“Siri Turn Off the Radiator in the Hallway” ….”Sorry, I don’t find anything like that in your Home”…

OK, so I’ll rename the TRV to Heating….

“Siri Turn Off the Heating in the Hallway”  ….Responds with “On It!, followed by a confirmation tone”. However, nothing happens. (other than the false, misleading confirmation tone)

Try for a second time….”Siri Turn Off the Heating in the Hallway” ….Viola, the Automation worked as expected

What is interesting is, requests to turn off TRVs in other rooms are actioned OK. Even several which are in different rooms but Grouped. It appears Siri just sometimes doesn’t like the TRV in the Hallway.

Additionally, I’m tired of checking and resetting, settings reconfigured by iOS updates! PRIVACY & SECURITY > LOCATION SERVICES > SYSTEN SERVICES  > 

• Significant Locations
• IPhone Analytics 
• Routing & Traffic

…Are all set to ON.

The last 3 updates, gave all reconfigured these settings. Why? This has been widely reported since iOS17, so why are updates still being pushed with known bugs?! 

More debugging - less Emojis! 

“It just works”… sadly that time has passed. The only thing you can rely on these days is Bugs.

It’s no longer fun or efficient. Just tiresome. My whole Apple experience these days is frustrating, tedious and far from enjoyable. Second guessing, fault analysis and workarounds are now a daily activity.

Currently trying to work out why my phone no longer makes a noise when I receive an iMessage. Just discovered another Post, seems I’m not alone.

Samme issue. Have an automation which trigger lights off when TV on. Stopped working with TVOS 17.0. Automation lights on when TV off, works. Have an LG TV with LG WEB OS 04.50.51. Was updated around same time. Have tread in Facebook Homekit community, with a guy with earlier WEB OS and identical issue. All is pointing towards 17.0. There is a similar thread on Reddit.

Are using a VPN? If so adjust for the time difference between where you are and location set in the VPN. 2.4Ghz router, with HomePod and connected devices? Have you turned on all allow precise location in home settings?

Hey all,

I too am having the same issue. If you go to Bug Reporting - Apple Developer

there is a link that will open the Apple Feedback portal. I have submitted an incident there (screenshot below) and if everyone does the same with a similar title then hopefully this will get escalated and fixed soon. I’m going to post this same information on a couple of other forums that I’ve found this same issue on and hope to get it patched soon! Cheers!

Hey all, 

I too am having the same issue. If you go to ”https://developer.apple.com/bug-reporting/#feedback-assistant” there is a link that will open the Apple Feedback Assistant portal (I have had to type the link manually otherwise Apple removes it). I have submitted an incident there (screenshot below) and if everyone does the same with a similar title then hopefully this will get escalated and fixed soon. I’m going to post this same information on a couple of other forums that I’ve found this same issue on and hope to get it patched soon! Cheers!

I too am having the same issue. If you search the web for Apple’s ‘Feedback Assistant’ you will get taken to a feedback app/portal I have submitted an incident there (screenshot below) and if everyone does the same with a similar title then hopefully this will get escalated and fixed soon. I’m going to post this same information on a couple of other forums that I’ve found this same issue on and hope to get it patched soon! Cheers!

The problem is not iOS, but tvOS, which starts automation on

HomeKit started working for me after 17.1.1. Release 17.1.2 is due next week with alleged bug fixes.

So, last night I returned to the earlier, simpler arrangement whereby iOS 17.1 Standby is off, and the automation is triggered by a time (not an alarm, which didn't work), triggering a shortcut to Play Radio 4 via BBC Sounds. And it worked. Last time this set up worked, it failed the next morning. I will leave things undisturbed to see what happens tomorrow morning.

I have been in contact with Apple support the past few days since I was having the same problem with a Wemo light switch.

Everything was set up correctly, they ran some tests and have been calling me back to keep me updated.

I am expecting a call tomorrow from them but yesterday I decided to move the light switch to another location in my house. After installing I realized automations started working properly. I don’t believe it has to do with the change of location since before I could turn the switch on and off, only automations didn’t work.

Now the switch works properly, I believe that they fixed something since I called them and it’s now working.

Give it a try and let me know if you now can use your automations.

Thanks

Same for me as well. I do have one other wrinkle. Some of my automation groups only work on SOME of the devices in the automation. It does works, but leaves out some items in the automation without much rhyme or reason. Really weird.

It seems to be iOS 17 issue…

Homehubs: All AppleTVs with a couple of 4k TVs in the mix.