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WatchOS 10 makes playing music on watch so much more tedious

I (presumably like many others) have always used my watch to listen to music and track my runs.


WatchOS has progressively gotten worse in being easy and obvious to play music from the watch, if you try to start it while it is in range of your phone. It defaults to try and start music by controlling the phone. I got used to it but it was always annoying.


Now with WatchOS10 it makes it REALLY unintuitive and cumbersome.


Here are the steps I have to do to start my music. The music.app is a complication on my main watch face specifically so I can easily start music before a run. (This assumes that I am in range of my phone when I want to start the music which I always am at the beginning of my run and have played music on my phone since the last time I played it on my watch, which will always be the case)


  1. Hit music
  2. Hit the 3 little dots in the upper right
  3. Hit airplay
  4. Scroll all the way to the bottom of the device list (of which I have many because this is showing every airplay destination my phone currently sees)
  5. Hit "Control other speakers & TVs"
  6. Hit Apple watch
  7. Hit play


That's really unintuitive and a crazy amount of steps and to do every time I want to go for a run.


Am I missing something?

They seemed to have completely overlooking people using their watch this way despite all the previous ads for working out/running while listening to music.


Posted on Sep 29, 2023 3:52 PM

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Posted on Oct 12, 2023 3:03 PM

Not rare. It's just really difficult for a community of people dealing with crappy new watch functionality to come together quickly. I'm having the EXACT same problem on my Apple Watch. If I ever needed an excuse to not go for a run now, it's my Apple Watch and the ten minutes I spend before every run battling its desire to play music on my iPhone (BTW, out of all the features on my Apple Watch, the thing I least need to do is use it to control the music on the phone that's literally in my other hand). And there's no easy nor obvious way to switch it back to my BT earphones (which are already paired. Have already been unpaired and re-paired. So don't send me that link, please.).


In addition to borking the watch so it plays to the phone by default, the other thing that's happened is that playlists no longer continue where I left off the day before. I don't know about the other runners here, but I keep five or six really big playlists loaded to my watch at all times. When I start a run, I start up a playlist and hit "shuffle" (which is also now buried multiple taps into the system). When I finish the run, I hit "pause." When I run the next day, my watch used to remember right where I left off, and would keep playing. Now I've got to start the playlist over every single time, leading to lots of repeats of songs.


I don't know that anyone's suggesting a bug (though it could be). I'm sure some developer thought this new way was oodles better than the old way -- the way we've been doing it for years and years and years. It is not better. It's dumb.



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Oct 5, 2023 12:27 AM in response to hockeybrian

I'm dealing with the exact same scenario, except for me, it's when I'm in the car driving (as I use a Bluetooth FM transmitter).


On top of having to do the above mentioned steps, I have noticed that if I open the Music app after music is paused for a short while (I'm not sure what exactly causes this), it essentially restarts (like it's the first time I've opened it since I last booted the Watch) and goes right to Listen Now. So I have to hit the back arrow, then Library, then Downloaded, and then find the song I want to play. On watchOS 9 when I opened the Music app, it generally opened to the last album/playlist (or my entire list of downloaded music) from the get-go, unless I restarted my Watch for some reason.


This is an especially bad experience considering, well, I'm in the car, possibly driving, so having to do all of that just to have music downloaded from my Watch play in my car stereo does pose a bit of a safety risk, even if I'm stopped while doing so.

Oct 5, 2023 7:17 AM in response to Tjoeb123

Yep, the Music app on watchOS10 seems to pretty quickly forget what was last playing. On all previous watchOSes I could go weeks and when I'd reenter the music app I'd see the last song still there from the last playlist used. Now, like you said, I have to fully reselect everything each time which includes selecting shuffle again as the transport controls (selecting how to play the songs from the current playlist) are horrible on watchOS10.

Oct 5, 2023 8:39 AM in response to hockeybrian

hockeybrian wrote:

I have reported it and as you see reports are starting to come in of others having similar/the same issue.

I don't see reports that are made to Apple. But, yes, I see one other person responding here. And 5 "me, too" clicks. Even if we assume ten times that number of people are experiencing this issue (which may well have multiple causes), that's an infinitesimally small percentage of users. Either not a bug or an amazingly rare one.

Oct 5, 2023 11:28 AM in response to IdrisSeabright

Something clearly isn't working as intended, unless you're saying Apple intentionally made what is reasonably a widely and frequently used app among the install base more difficult to use.


If the app just remembered what it was doing before without acting like it was just opened for the first time, that would probably satisfy most folks. It was sometimes buggy before, but now it's cumbersome as well.

Oct 5, 2023 12:25 PM in response to subnetmask

subnetmask wrote:

Something clearly isn't working as intended, unless you're saying Apple intentionally made what is reasonably a widely and frequently used app among the install base more difficult to use.

I'm saying that the problem the original poster described is not something everyone is having. I am not. And, it's not coming up a lot on these forums. And that makes it harder to troubleshoot as there is less data and it makes it far less likely that any updates Apple releases will have any effect.

Oct 5, 2023 1:17 PM in response to IdrisSeabright

Most people would just complain on social media and their local communities and Facebook and such. Apple doesn’t exactly make submitting feedback visible directly in iOS. ****, even I didn’t know how to do so until a kind fellow here shared a link.


On top of that, things like this is what we had betas for. If this occurred in the watchOS 10 betas, why was this not fixed?

Oct 6, 2023 7:11 AM in response to Tjoeb123

Tjoeb123 wrote:

Most people would just complain on social media and their local communities and Facebook and such.

People complain here. A lot. Consider the current issue with the inability to use custom text tones that was introduced in iOS 17. It's everyone on these forums and there are many, many discussions in the wider internet.

On top of that, things like this is what we had betas for. If this occurred in the watchOS 10 betas, why was this not fixed?

Perhaps it didn't show up in the beta because it's not a watchOS bug? Or, because it's an extremely obscure one cause by an extremely unlikely combination of conditions that didn't arise for anyone who reported things.


Not everything that goes wrong is a bug. That doesn't mean it didn't go wrong. But, getting invested in the idea that it's a bug usually means people stop troubleshooting.

Oct 6, 2023 9:47 AM in response to hockeybrian

I also just confirmed that if I'm in the middle of my run, far away from my phone, then I can pause and restart music normally. It only seems to be when in range of my phone, the instant I pause playing music from the watch, all controls revert back to controlling the phone as being the primary. And the new UI seems to make it incredibly unobvious/tedious how to start music on the watch if you are also in range of the phone.

Oct 9, 2023 4:42 AM in response to IdrisSeabright

Hello,


I Have exactly the same problem since watch os 10!! Listening music in a workout, on a non apple Bluetooth headset you are lost in menu’s when you have paused the music. It will start playing again on the phone speakers but not true the headset. Not even possible to hit play in de dedicated music screen (swipe right in workout app) I Have the slight impression apple forces users to go buy EarPods to seamlessly work with watch/music/workout. How dare they!!

Oct 9, 2023 5:24 AM in response to IdrisSeabright

Hello again,


This is a build in change, a very bad one. Everyone can reproduce it: if you listen music with a non apple headset. It turns the music player just worthless on Apple Watch during a workout with a non apple headphone. Yesterday I was out for a run and normally I pause (headset button) music every time when coming into high traffic zones and start playing (headset button) again when back in more safe environment. But the play again just never start anymore! Not even from the watch. You need to go searching in menu’s to select the source (watch in stead of phone) and then you can continue listing. This is very badly done. It really looks like a downgrade for the non apple headset users. The same problem appears outside a workout though. So I am sure a lot of users are suffering this issue. Listening music on an Apple Watch becomes just useless this way!

plus: I Was trying to ad a complication to the ‘Now Playing’ app to bypass a bit this problem, but hey..: ‘Now Playing’ can’t be found anymore as a complication. What a coincidence!! Please Apple, update this huge error.

Oct 9, 2023 6:50 AM in response to janfromherent

I had the same thought of using now playing since it has a screen to immediately select WHERE you want to play the music(phone or watch) and also discovered that most watch faces don't offer now playing as a complication because it is a "larger" complication and can only fit into certain slots. I've never understood this restriction and why they can't make Now playing a smaller complication.

Oct 9, 2023 7:11 AM in response to hockeybrian


Hello again,


Since I was running out of solutions I have contacted apple to see if they were aware of this problem. Seems unknown for them. But… unlinking and reconnecting my Apple Watch with my phone seems to solve te problem. I Have tried quickly and now I can use pause again without resending play to the iPhone speaker! I’ll test it out in depth but it seems te solution. 

Realy sorry to complain directly about product and brand protection…!! 

Stays a problem: Now Playing can’t be added as a compilation. But ok, no dealbreaker.


Jan

Oct 12, 2023 3:31 PM in response to newsdude

I'm not what you would call a "runner", but for me, it's not even a week - it happens even over the span of a few minutes. I can be driving with my music (paired to my Watch as it's a BT-FM transmitter), then go into my local McDonald's or something (I do use its app to use my account code even when I'm in the store), then get back in my car and I have to pick my music again, starting from backing out of Listen Now. Again. It's like the app just randomly closes.

WatchOS 10 makes playing music on watch so much more tedious

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