Why can't I schedule messages to Android users on iPhone?

Jbinesf wrote:

Also just realized I can't even scheduled send to myself! That was one of my favorite ways to send myself a quick reminder when was an android user.

Sending messages to yourself in iMessages tends to be less than ideal. You might want to consider using Siri to create reminders. "Siri, remind me to get my prescriptions renewed" or "Siri, remind me that I should listen to more Kenny G.".

These tend to be fairly long to-do lists that auto-populate my brain at bedtime (work is very busy right now). 1) I've actually never used Siri; 2) Texts get my attention, and I'm in iMessage all the time anyway; 3) It works for me. I'm super busy and don't need to add one more thing/place to check at the moment.

I'll just keep sending them to myself in the moment, as I've been begrudgingly doing since I got the iPhone. I can get outta there before the incoming is read, or mark it "unread," at least.

Kinda wishing my bf hadn't talked me into the iPhone, but so it goes.

Jbinesf wrote:

1) I've actually never used Siri;

Now is as good a time as any to try.

2) Texts get my attention,

Reminders can get your attention, too.

3) It works for me. I'm super busy and don't need to add one more thing/place to check at the moment.

No, apparently, as well as you'd like. And it never hurts to learn how to do new things.

It rarely hurts to learn new things, but I have never been so busy in my life, ramping up in a new field. One more New thing or one more thing that doesn't work might be the end of me.

Also Seems weird to imply that users should make compromises because the phone itself isn't living up to simple expectations.

I also get far, far (far) too many notifications because iPhones' + apps' settings are not granular enough. In a lot of cases it's really just: do you get all, do you get none? I check text all the time, whether I'm looking at notifications or not.

Siri would be one more thing crowding my notifications and probably getting missed at this point.

Sometimes you have to be realistic about your current bandwidth, and flow, and go with the low impact choice. And really, I don't want my phone to still still be a constant research project/crash course at this point. It's tiring

Just a couple of points:

• Comparing Apple not supporting RCS in the past and for the send later option requiring iMessage, it has worked out very well for Apple not supporting everything simply because others do it. Apple is more concerned about your privacy and security than others as well. When Apple introduced the iPhone, they took a lot of flak for not supporting Flash on the device, since it was available on others. This turned out to be a huge benefit as Flash was filled with security holes and others have now adopted the same approach.
• Setting a reminder does not take any research. It is done simply with Siri by saying "Siri remind me in 2 days to do something". If you do not want to use Siri, the Reminders app is simple to user without any additional research needed.
• For excessive Notifications, you either allow an app to send them to you or not. If you find an app that sends you too many Notifications, then you have 2 options, either see if the app allows you to adjust the frequency of the notifications or quit using the app. It seems you want to keep things simple, but at the same time want a more complicated approach to manage the notifications.
• Siri does not crowd your Notifications. If you ask Siri to set a reminder for you, then you will get that Notification, but I would not consider that crowding your Notifications anymore the sending a message to yourself crowding your inbox.
• If you don't want to learn new features offered in the updates, then stick with what you know. Send Later is a new feature for iMessage users that just came out, so stick with want you know and don't take advantage of these new features until you are able to understand them. Asking questions here is a quick way to inquire about the features and in the case of Send Later, you have found it that it is for iMessage users. That took very little time. It takes far more time to complain about the feature.

Mac Jim ID wrote:

• For excessive Notifications, you either allow an app to send them to you or not. If you find an app that sends you too many Notifications, then you have 2 options, either see if the app allows you to adjust the frequency of the notifications or quit using the app. It seems you want to keep things simple, but at the same time want a more complicated approach to manage the notifications.

I think the Notification Summary feature is underused. I have a lot of things that I might like to get notifications about but that I don't want to deal with immediately dumped to the Scheduled Summaries. But I'm also pretty ruthless about what apps I allow to send me notifications.

Several things. Until about a year ago, I was an Android user and had used schedule send for years. So the feature, generically, isn't new to me. To this:

• For excessive Notifications, you either allow an app to send them to you or not. If you find an app that sends you too many Notifications, then you have 2 options, either see if the app allows you to adjust the frequency of the notifications or quit using the app. It seems you want to keep things simple, but at the same time want a more complicated approach to manage the notifications.

I did that when I first set up the phone, and found the apps' and settings' granularity to be limited. Yes, my exact point was that in many/most cases you have to choose between too many notifications or none at all. Neither is my preference.

As for the complaining, it's largely been in response to other comments who, forgive me, seem like semi-aggressive apologists for the iPhone's shortcomings. I appreciate the suggestions. But I have to say that a lot of the replies I'm referencing were more like, "you have to work to use the iPhone (or compromise/"kludge" something); don't expect the iPhone to work for you. And if you don't like it--you're the problem, the disappointing, expensive product isn't.. Or something like that.

Since I set up my phone (purposely bought when I had a little time), I have become crushingly busy, and don't have time to manage my phone at that level at the moment. I will check out the "notification summary" feature. But til then, will use what's more or less working while things are this crazy.

As for Siri, I may try it at some point. Right now, it works to use an app (messages) that I know I will already be checking frequently.

The offense taken here (by a couple people) doesn't help Apple's (/users') reputation for unearned-cult-like devotion. Comparing Apples to Androids (heh), I'm just finding myself disappointed with the iPhone. And the excitement at finally having "send later" was at least 60% dashed when I learned about its limitations (things Android's scheduled send has done for years).

I don't mean to offend anyone *personally* by "complaining" about the iPhone. I can't say that I ever would have been personally offended had someone complained about an Android feature when I had the Android. I'd either offer ideas (offered here, appreciated--if not stuff I can check out at the moment), or say "amen," if it was an issue for me too.

Jbinesf wrote:

I don't mean to offend anyone *personally* by "complaining" about the iPhone. I can't say that I ever would have been personally offended had someone complained about an Android feature when I had the Android. I'd either offer ideas (offered here, appreciated--if not stuff I can check out at the moment), or say "amen," if it was an issue for me too.

I'm not sure where you're getting this idea that people are "offended." The fact that people openly disagree with you doesn't mean they are offended. It just means they disagree.

I'd like to point out that, in the time you've spent posting these very long responses, you could have learned how to use Siri and Reminders. So, not so busy.

You should not feel like you have offended anyone and it was not my intention to offend you. We are simply dealing with factual matters about the features on the iPhone. I understand coming from Android to iPhone is going to be a different experience and actually it is supposed to be different. There is going to be a learning curve there just as a person coming from an iPhone to Android. There is always going to be someone saying I used to be able to do this or that. The fact is there are going to be many things that are different. You are going to be frustrated if you think that your iPhone is going to be just like your Android.

I am not interested in debating the merits of each device as that would not even be relevant here, just trying to get you up and running on your device. All we can do is offer you suggestions, we cannot tell you why Apple does anything. You were obviously comfortable with your Android and appeared to be talked into an iPhone, but don't have time to learn the power of the device. That may come across as being resentful when you are expecting one thing and realize it is quite different. There are many people that love their Androids and many people love their iPhones, it makes no difference to me.

Appreciate the reply. Yes, I was cajoled into it by my bf who's never had an Android. I've actually had the iPhone for 3/4 of a year! I specifically got it during a time when I could transition a bit gracefully. I feel like I'm relatively up and running. Appreciate it, though. (Haven't used Siri bc I've just never had the desire to, but I might try it or the Android/Google equivalent at some point.)

It may be that I just prefer the way Android handles the things I use the most (not to go into all the annoyances/preferences here). But I definitely didn't expect the iPhone to be just like Android. Just as my Apple computers and tablets aren't like my Windows machines. I won't be switching phones soon so I'm finding workarounds where things don't "work" (/well for me). It's just frustrating. Especially given all the build up, I was open to the iPhone being actually better! Not so much for me so far which is, yes, frustrating.

I switched from Samsung to Apple last year because I customized my phone.. Then I'd update and it would revert back somewhat.. I wanted something that just worked.. And we'll apple phones work consistently.. But I can see how there is a behind the scenes battle being fought ONLY by Apple. And it's pathetic. Now I have RCS compatibility. But I can't schedule messages to android? This is a HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT. I'm not going to throw a fit about it.. But I'd love to see it fixed.

Glad that works for you. I don't want more more apps notifying me, or more apps to remember to check. I'm in messages all the time already, where--boom!--there's that thing I sent myself. It's simple and it's always worked like a charm.

Also this is coming from someone who literally will use short-cuts to do all sorts of weird things, like trigger flashlights and music whenever an alarm goes off, and write a script to run with a mail rule in order send an iMessage if I get a specific email lol

Oh, I just replied to someone else about this (if this was to me). The messages in question are usually pretty long to-do lists and things like that. My ADHD brain responds really well to both the initial alert, AND to seeing the message every time I'm in the messages app (which is a lot). I use Google calendar for quick reminders. I'll see what apple reminders has to offer. But, for me, there's a lot of value in using an app I'm organically going to a lot already, to send long-ish messages to myself. So I'm just sending without scheduled-send for now. Not as great, but it's workable. Just frustrating that the great and powerful iphone hasn't turned out to be that, in numerous ways, for me.

I’ve been an android user forever. My son convinced me to switch to an iPhone. It’s been about three weeks and I still don’t understand why people think it’s better. This is just another example of something. My android did that my iPhone doesn’t.