What should I do next? -My new iPhone came defective out of the box, and Apple is refusing to replace it

I need some advice on how to proceed here.


I just made a similar post but Apple took it down so I'm not sure If I am allowed to even ask anymore. I'm kinda at my witts end but essentially my new phone never worked, phone support says I'll get a replacement, and the actual Apple store says otherwise.


Here is all of the details:



I purchased a brand-new iPhone 16 Pro Max from an AT&T corporate store on 12/23/2024. Within 12 hours of using it, the phone developed a serious battery issue:


  • The battery suddenly drops from 99% to 1% and shuts down.
  • It displays "Unverified Battery," even though it was brand new and unopened.
  • When in the "Unverified Battery" state, the phone will not charge at all.
  • The back glass is also defective, preventing wireless charging.


This phone is used for my wife’s business, but because she cannot process payments when the phone is in this state, she has had to temporarily shut down, costing us thousands of dollars.

Since the Apple Store is 1.5 hours away, every trip means paying for babysitting and spending several hours traveling and waiting.



Apple Support Initially Promised a Replacement, But the Store Refused

Three days after purchasing the phone, I called Apple Support. They apologized and confirmed the phone was eligible for a replacement but wanted to verify it had not been modified first. They booked an appointment at the Apple Store, stating the phone would be swapped out.


When I arrived early, I waited over an hour and a half before a technician could look at the phone.

  • The technician confirmed it was a hardware issue, ran diagnostics, and said it was eligible for a replacement.
  • He mentioned that manager approval was needed, so he couldn't guarantee the swap.
  • When the manager arrived, she reversed the decision and said they could not replace the phone.

Instead, Apple claimed AT&T was responsible because they sold it. I showed my receipt, which states Apple handles warranty claims, but the manager dismissed it and told me AT&T was lying.



AT&T Confirmed Apple is Responsible, But Apple Still Refused to Help

AT&T has been clear that Apple does not allow them to process warranty claims. To appease the Apple Store manager, I went to a nearby AT&T corporate store, where they confirmed:


  • Apple does not allow AT&T to handle warranty replacements.
  • AT&T regularly directs customers to Apple for warranty issues.


I also called four different corporate AT&T stores, and they all confirmed the same thing.

When I returned to Apple, the same manager finally offered to replace just the back glass because they couldn’t verify the battery.


  • They admitted the battery was too damaged to read, yet still refused a full replacement.
  • They said I would need to return for a separate battery replacement later.
  • They contradicted their own diagnostics, claiming it was a software issue despite two prior technicians stating otherwise.

They scheduled a repair appointment but said they couldn’t guarantee it would fix the issue.



Temporary Software Fix – But the Issue Returned

A day before the scheduled repair, I noticed a software update was available. After installing it, the phone seemed to work, so I canceled the repair, thinking the issue was resolved.

However, a few days later, the battery issue returned, proving this was a hardware failure.


Apple Support Promised a Replacement Again – Then Revoked It


At this point, I called Apple Support again. This time, the representative apologized and, after reviewing my case, was surprised it hadn’t been replaced earlier, saying, "They really gave you the runaround."

  • They confirmed that Apple should have replaced the phone the first time.
  • They escalated the issue to a manager, who approved a replacement.
  • They put me on hold to find a store with a replacement unit.


Then, I was suddenly transferred to another representative who had no knowledge of the previous conversation. They could not reconnect me, and I had to start over.


This new rep also approved a replacement but said it would be a refurbished device instead of a new one. I explained that since the phone was defective out of the box, I should receive a brand-new replacement.

They refused but promised the refurbished phone would be fully functional.



They scheduled another appointment at the Apple Store.



Third Apple Store Visit – Another Excuse, No Fix

At this appointment, the store refused to replace the phone again, claiming it was just a software issue.

They forced a factory reset and told us we could not restore from backup, meaning we had to manually reinstall everything. This process took hours.



Within 12 hours, the issue returned.



Is This Normal?


At this point, I have spent over 30 hours dealing with this, and Apple has wasted my time and money. My wife cannot run her business, we have paid for babysitters for each trip, and Apple keeps promising a replacement but then refusing to provide one.


I just need a working phone for my wife. Any ideas?

iPhone 16 Pro Max

Posted on Jan 13, 2025 10:22 AM

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Jan 13, 2025 10:52 AM in response to dcwaite

Curios as to why instead of a warranty claim attempt AT&T didn’t do what they were supposed to do and exchange it for a new device. You said the issue started just 12 hours after initial use. That means the phone was eligible for return/exchange immediately through AT&T as it was well within that period. If you have proof of going to AT&T during that period and can show it escalate with AT&T. They were supposed to exchange it.


The Apple part of it…it seems that for whatever reason something is giving them the impression that the phone was tampered with….and since you purchased new from AT&T it would seem like the burden goes back to between you and them. But that’s just a guess based on the info provided. Not sure what else you can do on the Apple side if the denial keeps coming back to something telling them something has occurred. Sounds like you have done the steps to escalate on the Apple side…but the obstacle is going to keep being whatever it is that triggers that denial. It’s also odd that they claimed it was a software issue (which if it is it would seem to imply you would have to wait until a new iOS update was released but you said they simply told you to restore to factory and that did not work. Did you go back to let them see that? Escalated to a manager at that store?). As far as the refurbished thing…warranty replacements are almost always going to be refurbished. That has always been stated in the terms and conditions. This goes back to AT&T, the place you actually purchased from and their responsibility at the very beginning of this during their return/exchange period. They should have exchanged it with a new device if you went to them during that period. Anything past that period would have been a warranty issue and any replacement was going to be refurbished.

Jan 13, 2025 11:22 PM in response to dcwaite

Glad they were able to get it done for you but I can tell you that the info AT&T told you (even family you say are high up in the company) was not correct. AT&T has to accept your return or exchange during the return period regardless of you stating your reason for return is due to any issue other than damage (such as cosmetic damage or water damage). They can not say that a software issue or even a battery issue that existed out of the box excludes it from return eligibility otherwise they would deny every return using that as a reason. The only way they could claim this about your battery issue would be if they could show that you caused internal damage to the device which caused the battery to have issues (again, something like water/liquid damage, exposure to extreme temperatures, etc).


Unless something else was going on that truly excluded your device from return/exchange eligibility then AT&T actually failed to do what they were supposed to when you initially had the issue again assuming you contacted AT&T about it during the return period. AT&T mentioning something about doing a warranty exchange was a way to pass the buck because they are correct…they would not be the ones to handle warranty exchanges for Apple but this would not have been under that unless you didn’t involve AT&T in the situation until day 15 or beyond.


Hopefully getting the replacement resolves your issues once and for all. But AT&T should have exchanged it with a new one from the beginning.

Jan 13, 2025 11:28 AM in response to KaeBFly

Once they got the verification that the battery was in fact authentic apple by running the diagnostics, they stopped feeling that way, but at first, it definitely came off that way at first to me as well.



So went back in forth with AT&T for a while. I actually ended up talking to family I have that works there very high up the food chain.


AT&T can accept a return only if the phone is undamaged and working as intended for 14 days after purchase. As soon as I said there was a problem with the phone, they could no longer accept it.


The way they explained it is that Apple actually done not allow AT&T to warranty out phones anymore. Once they leave the store for the first time its Apple who is responsible. This is because AT&T would just swap out and warranty phones for issues that could have been fixed by Apple and so Apple did not like that.


The denials are super odd to me. Im not making anything up, I have receipts. The issues are well documented, support staff has looked at it multiple times, so im really not sure. The closest thing I was told was "its an odd problem and you may need to send it to the engineers but you won't have a phone for over a week" but then once it worked again after the reboot it was back out the door so im not sure


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