How to secure an Apple Account from unauthorized access by old devices

I realized on Feb 26, 2025 that my ex had used my old iPhone and iPad to access my photos, GPS location, and texts on iCloud. I reported it to Apple that day, right after changing my password (again.) The last time I changed it was Nov 2024 when I remote wiped the devices I couldn’t get back and deleted them from Find My.


It took until May 23, 2025 for Apple Support to believe me-only after I downloaded my privacy data and found recent push notifications marked delivered to those deauthorized devices.


I’ve changed my password religiously, changed my iCloud email using an unrelated computer, and even gone as far as to change my cellphone to Android. It’s August 19th today, and my account still isn’t secure. In fact, another old device showed up on my newest privacy data request.


From what I’ve put together from my privacy data, Apple’s security framework allows old devices to reauthorize each other if they can’t connect to the internet—over Bluetooth, NFC, and more. Apple also saves ‘trusted’ IP addresses in their system that I can’t access or delete.


I’ve spent thousands of dollars on apps and media with Apple, but I’m told I can’t transfer them to a new account. I really don’t want to lose those investments and delete my account.


Does anyone know how to secure my account from these phantom devices? They don’t show up on Find My or my account list, just in my privacy data.


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Original Title: Account Breach- Day 174

Posted on Aug 19, 2025 4:20 PM

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Aug 30, 2025 8:28 AM in response to Okiemavis

Have you removed the Associated Devices from your account? This is NOT the same as your devices signed into your account or seen on Find My. The only way I am aware of that other devices can be removed is by using a Mac or PC. I suspect Apple would be able to do it if you contacted them, but cannot confirm. You cannot remove other Associated Devices from an iPhone/iPad, you can only remove that device from the Associated Device list. You mention deauthorizing devices remotely, but it does not appear you are referring to the Associated devices that would require a Mac/PC.


This list of associated devices is not the same as the list of devices that you’re currently signed in to with your Apple Account. 

View and remove your devices that are associated with your Apple Account for purchases - Apple Support


P.S. I also reviewed my Associated Device list and there were 2 from 8 years ago that were devices that I once had and I was able to remove them on my Mac. I then followed up with the Privacy Data you used for Notifications and every time I had downloaded an app from the App Store, those old devices showed up along with the other Associated Devices. Those devices were authorized to redownload apps, but it would not be possible to do that unless they were currently signed into my Apple Account, and they were not, so they did not appear in my Device list or Find My. There is no security risk with those devices being Associated when they are not logged into your account. If they had later been used to download an App or play Music with another Apple Account, they would have been removed from mine as a device can only have one account association.

Aug 19, 2025 4:46 PM in response to Okiemavis

Go to Settings > [name on top], and scroll down to see the list of devices signed into your account. Tap on any devices that are not yours and remove them. Follow that by changing the password again on your account and follow that up with verifying the Trusted Phone Numbers you have on your account.

About trusted phone numbers and trusted devices for Apple Account - Apple Support


Many of these can be done by using Safety Check that will also verify that you are not sharing additional data.

Safety Check for an iPhone with iOS 16 or later - Apple Support


Yes you can transfer apps and media to another account. You sign into Media & Purchases at Settings > [name on top] > Media & Purchase. This is called a Secondary Account. You then create a new Primary Account and sign into your iCloud account with that one. Migrating will transfer all purchases from your Secondary Account to your Primary Account and your Secondary Account then would no longer be usable.

About migrating Apple Account purchases between accounts - Apple Support


No, old devices do not reauthorize each other and the IP Address is not what is Trusted. A Trusted Device is one that is currently signed into your account using your current password. An attempt to sign into your account on another device that is not using the password will still require the Verification Code that is sent to the Trusted Device that IS currently logged into your account. The alternative is to send the verification code to a Trusted Phone number that has already been set up on your account. That is why previously I recommended to verify the numbers stored there.


I have no idea what part of the Privacy Report you are concerned with or if you are talking about the Privacy Report in Settings or the data you can request on your account.





Aug 29, 2025 3:30 PM in response to Mac Jim ID

Some of this info is potentially helpful, but some of your response is inaccurate at best. I'll do my best to scaffold you towards understanding as I'm sure it's not your intention to spread misinformation.


Device list on Apple account- Yes, that's been done. I remote deleted and deauthorized all devices except my iPhone 11 (12,1) on November 6, 2024. As I said in my original post, these are phantom devices (worth Googling). They do not show up on Find My or on my account list, hence the term phantom device. It's a well-documented and complex issue across the whole field of technology (telecommunications, IoT, anything connected to a network.) You might find the subject interesting since you seem like a passionate hobbyist.


Safety check- yes, I know about this feature. I perform them about once a week, and is often how I have confirmed that the breach is ongoing. While it can be a useful tool, it is limited in its functionality. It is by no means comprehensive or a silver bullet.


Transfer apps and media- now this is helpful, thank you. I assumed Senior Support was correct when they told me it wasn't possible, this is a great workaround. Really appreciate this.


No, old devices do not reauthorize each other and the IP Address is not what is Trusted.

So this is where our understanding diverges. Do you have any sources to support what you're saying? Here are three of my sources: Patrick Wardle's Methods of Malware Persistence on macOS, Sarah Edward's Ubiquity Forensics (DEF CON 23), and Patrick Wardle & Christopher Lopez' Did Apple Solve Persistence.


An attempt to sign into your account on another device that is not using the password will still require the Verification Code that is sent to the Trusted Device that IS currently logged into your account.

That is true, with newer iOS versions, but was not always true. These were old devices that hadn't been used for quite a while and likely didn't have space for an OS update. I'm not trying to be harsh by correcting you point by point, but the safety of domestic violence survivors is my priority, and your blanket statements could easily misinform someone else in my situation. Please try to consider the impact of making absolute statements without having enough information to make such a determination.


The alternative is to send the verification code to a Trusted Phone number that has already been set up on your account. That is why previously I recommended to verify the numbers stored there.

Are you familiar with SS7 security? It was developed in the 70's and has many well documented vulnerabilities. SMS should not in any way be used for 2FA. I personally rely on a physical security key and avoid companies that force SMS 2FA at all costs.


I have no idea what part of the Privacy Report you are concerned with or if you are talking about the Privacy Report in Settings or the data you can request on your account.


I did not say anything about Privacy Reports in my post. I was referring to the data I downloaded from privacy.apple.com. I've attached a screenshot of one of the csv files from that privacy data which show evidence of phantom devices receiving push notifications below, with the device IDs redacted for my privacy and security.


If you cannot see the screenshot, you can also view it here. I own an iPhone 11 (12,1) and all others are unauthorized.

Sep 7, 2025 11:49 AM in response to Chattanoogan

@Chattanoogan thank you. Could you explain what you mean though? I’m new to this community, and sometimes struggle with social nuance, so I don’t have a handle on the etiquette here yet.


Do you mean I should say thank you when someone gives me incorrect info?


I was concerned that other people, specifically those seeking physical safety, might read this thread and leave with information that puts their well-being at risk. Am I missing something? I’m just really confused. But thank you.

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