Airplay on old Apple TV

Oh, I did. I saw how the "bug" theory (just a theory) was thrown up here. I read how contradictory your explanations were.

Once again, it appears that you don't read very carefully. The "bug" theory has long since been laid to rest. The initial AirPlay documentation posted on Apple's web site indicated that AirPlay could be used to stream audio from an iOS device to an ATV1, but that document has since been revised to say that you can stream only from iTunes on a computer to an ATV1.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4437

It is also clearly stated on Apple's web site that AirPlay is a component of iOS that allows those devices to stream directly to an ATV2 or AirPort Express. The ability to use a mobile iOS device as a streaming source did not exist prior to the advent of AirPlay in iOS 4.2, and that has nothing to do with AirTunes.

http://www.apple.com/ios

iOS 4.2 and AirPlay came along long after the last ATV1 software update. It would take a software upgrade to incorporate AirPlay compatibility into the ATV1, and, as I have said many times before, I just don't see that happening for a device that has been obsoleted by a newer model.

Michael Schoop wrote:
This discussion is about/concerns people that invested i an AppleTV1 and got blind-sided by the promised new features of the upcoming iOS that would provide some really nice features to our AppleTV's..

Many of us went out and bought another one (me).

This claim has been made a number of times, yet nobody seems to be able to point out to me where, in what ad or presentation, Jobs or any Apple representative said anything that could reasonably be interpreted as indicating that AppleTV1 would get these features. Perhaps you can?

Here's Apple's archive of Apple presentations to help:
http://www.apple.com/apple-events/

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So far as we are told there will be no further major updates for the existing tv, so it looks like a no for airplay.

Renting tv shows on the existing tv has been discussed here previously, I don't think there was a clear consensus of opinion one way or the other, but unless there is some specific reason that  wanted to stop it I don't see why it shouldn't work personally, but could be wrong. After all I would have thought renting a tv show was no different to renting a movie.

Mine just doesn't work, Airtunes is no longer "available." By that I mean, Airplay is the only option in the preferences (The current Apple TV apparently will not be getting Airplay -- only the new Apple TV).

This business about Apple TV no longer being supported by updates just ***! We deserve adequate support for at least a year.

Airtunes/Airplay cannot be abandoned upon us. (So, I guess, Airtunes is streaming audio while Airplay is streaming audio & video.) Accommodate us with Airplay support through the original Apple TV.

So far, Airplay is doing everything Airtunes did through my old AppleTV- I can still stream music from iTunes to it. but what I would like to see is Airplay enabled from my iPhone to my old AppleTV...

It appears that older Apple TVs are NOT getting AirPlay. I hadn't noticed there was a rebranding/reengineering until I plugged in my new Apple TV and tried to play music out to other Apple TV as I've been doing for years now.

I guess this means that I'll have to replace my second Apple TV with a new model if I want to retain that functionality. Not really thrilled about that, I must admit.

I agree. The lack of support for 1st generation Apple TVs is particularly galling since the iTunes page claims "AirPlay wireless technology will be arriving inside speakers, AV receivers, and iPod accessories".

Just not their own.

Beyond rapacity, I can't see a single reason for Airplay not to work on Apple TVs which were being sold a few months ago. It streams audio and video already.

You know I really like Apple products but its pretty pathetic when they don't update something like the old apple tv for something as simple as Airplay. This decision does not in any way make me want to buy the new apple tv just to have airplay on it. Its really a shame and bad marketing. Don't tell me its the hardware either because it should work just fine on both apple tv's.

I have Airplay audio working from iTunes to the 1st Gen ATV. It doesn't work from my iPad however. Airplay audio works from BOTH iTunes and IOS devices to the Airport Express without any update required for the Airport Express. Disappointing that it doesn't work from the iPad to the 1st Gen ATV since the protocols for AirTunes to both the Airport Express and the ATV seemed the same.

absolutely agree. if you want people to get annoyed with the products, then apple is going about it the right way. i own a mac, apple tv, iphone, ipod and ipad. surely after spending thousands of dollars on their products and switching from windows so that everything 'just works' apple could keep them working together. None of what i own is more than a year old, and already its becoming obsolete. PATHETIC!!

I think they have made some software block in iOS 4.2 to distinguish between airport express and old Apple TV. There is no other reason why this shouldn't work since streaming to airport express still works without any software update.
I agree with a lot of people that this is a cheap trick from Apple to force buying the new Apple TV. But for sure I am not going to do this, since the new Apple can't stream video from my NAS (I have hacked my Apple TV and use XBMC for this)

+Apple - are you listening? I have been a loyal customer back to the original Macintosh SE and with every update I have never felt more left behind than I do now. I paid $400 for an Apple TV a year ago and now I can't use AirPlay.....? *! Are you going to take care of us 1st generation folks who paved the way for you to make AppleTV2 or leave us behind in the dust? How about at least a discount for us 1st Gen owners if the original hardware can't hack it?+

Totally agree there. I think Apple is just going down the same path they tried to years ago. I'm not a happy customer. I will not be an apple customer for much longer. I am sick of companies who try too hard to attract 'new customers' in lieu of supporting their existing. Hope you're happy with that stat.

My god this is realy unbelievable. My Airport Express works without any software update with my new iPhone's AirPlay function. I was so happy about AirPlay, I was about to buy 1st generation Apple TV in one of our shops (we stil can't buy new Apple TV, just an old - expensive one in Slovenia). So I googled for "airplay on old apple tv" to make sure AirPlay works with old Apple TV and found this discussion.
Now for sure I won't buy it...

AppleTV still works great from iTunes, but not from the iPod.

The annoying thing isn't that there's no upgrade for AppleTV (though Apple have been slack here - Both AppleTV and iPhone 3G were current products only a few months ago, so should still see some support), but that Apple have installed crippleware in iOS to activly block something that should work out of the box. If the iPod can see airtunes devices (which it can), then it should work for AppleTV 1 unless they've chosen to break it deliberatly.

Yes I totally agree, Wasn't that long ago I brought my Old version Apple TV from the Apple store, and they couldn't even tell me a new one was due out when. I asked. so it should stream no problems music any way as the airtunes does on the apple remote on the iPhone, but of course yes would be great just to stream audio too from the phone, because now I only get music from the phone to the Airport Express in the Kitchen from the phone and not the Apple TV in the Living room. with out starting up the apple TV grrr and using the Remote app on the iPhone with it's slow at getting things going and likes to disconnect a lot arrrrgghhh.

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